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  1. #1
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    X2 Y Axis Way Extension

    As anyone who has used an X2 minimill knows, y-axis travel is very limited. I converted a minimill to cnc a few years back and have been constantly plagued by the lack of y-axis travel. Push came to shove when I wanted to use it to machine parts for a gantry router I have under construction so I finally decided to do something about it.

    On his website, Hoss lists a couple of mods to the y-axis to extend it around .75" in one direction and around 1.5" in the other. Unfortunately, the latter allows the saddle to over travel the ways by an excessive amount. This thread describes how I solved that problem by extending the y-axis ways.

    I began by hogging out the throat of the minimill base. This modification encompasses Hoss's modification and the modification which can be found in the Y! minimill group. This modification necessitates relocating the column mount to the back of the mill base. Shown in the first few images are the throat clearance and the initial milling of the flats for the new column mount.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails ymod1.jpg   ymod2.jpg  
    ~Don

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    Next, holes are drilled and tapped for mounting the column mounting plate as well as holes for mounting the y-axis way extensions. I used 5/16" bolts for the column mount and 10-32 bolts for the way extensions.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails ymod3.jpg  
    ~Don

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    Next, I fabricated the new column mount out of 3/4" mild steel. All holes are drilled and tapped and a test fit is performed on the minimill base.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails ymod4.jpg   ymod5.jpg   ymod6.jpg   ymod7.jpg  

    ymod8.jpg  
    ~Don

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    I skipped a few steps and didn't take any photos during the process but I recut the base where the extensions will mount - mainly to square up the ends of the existing ways. Then I cut the way extension blanks out of 1/2" mild steel and rough fit them to the base assembly.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails ymod9.jpg  
    ~Don

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    Next, I cut the 60 degree dovetails in the way extensions. The extensions are left slightly oversized for fine fitting. The material removal here is to take the load off of the dovetail cutter.





    Trimmed and ready for installation.


    ~Don

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    Here's an image of the base just prior to being put back on the table for final installation.


    Here I'm using a very clean edge to indicate the base. That edge was cut during the hogging out of the base throat.


    Here are the goodies to be installed.


    The base is secured to the table and the parts are installed. The way extensions have been secured with 10-32 socket bolts and a very thin film of JB Weld. I let the epoxy cure for 24 hours prior to final machining.
    ~Don

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    Finally!!!!

    The dovetails were cut with a 60 degree dovetail cutter. To bring everything flush, I removed about .015 from the base of the dovetail, .018 from the left hand dovetail and .023 from the right hand dovetail. The top of the ways was surfaced with a flycutter. This was all done in a single set up to ensure everything is parallel and in the same plane.



    That's all for now. Next up will be cutting the dovetails in the saddle and X2 table. Then on to lapping and polishing of the ways.
    ~Don

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    Nice. Looking forward to more updates.

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    Very cool. How much travel travel will you get on Y?

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    With no over travel of the ways, I'll get 5.625" of travel. If I over travel toward the stepper mount, I can get a little better than 6". Considering I started with around 3.5" (the chip guards were getting in the way), this represents a HUGE improvement and makes the machine so much more useful. To utilize this increased travel, I'll need to machine a spacer for the spindle to z-axis mount.

    I have tons of other mods planned for my X2 while it's in pieces including a counter balance, limit switches, new spindle bearings and some sort of column brace.
    ~Don

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    Great work! I would probably have had to order a new base for mine if I tried that!

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    I'm waiting for the Large Table Assembly from LM, http://www.littlemachineshop.com/pro...ory=-269978449

    Once I have that in house I might try something like this to extend travel even further, if the larger base allows it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knudsen View Post
    Great work! I would probably have had to order a new base for mine if I tried that!
    Thanks!

    Trust me, I had sweaty palms during some of this and I'm glad I'm on the other side of it. I took lots of time to get this done and there was a lot of scratching of the backside during the process. The rest of the upgrade is pretty simple by comparison.
    ~Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellik View Post
    I'm waiting for the Large Table Assembly from LM...
    I had considered that as well as the base from the "monster X2" conversion elsewhere on this site. Both costs $$$ and right now that's not a good thing. Aside from tooling this conversion came from the material stockpile - cheap! I like that. Plus the monster conversion doubles the footprint of the mill and wouldn't fit on the bench I'm using.

    A 6" y-axis work envelope will breathe new life into this mill.

    You should be able to do something similar with the long X2 base. That would be sweet!
    ~Don

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    Smile

    Quote Originally Posted by degreaser View Post
    Thanks!

    Trust me, I had sweaty palms during some of this and I'm glad I'm on the other side of it. I took lots of time to get this done and there was a lot of scratching of the backside during the process. The rest of the upgrade is pretty simple by comparison.
    NO SWEAT!!! HF has the bases for like 19.00 each, I ordered 2 of them for a total of $48.00 shipped.

    Robert

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    I did the same thing but mine had to come from China. Took 6months until I got it.

    I totally forgot about it by the time it showed up. I had other projects to keep me busy.

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    Excellent work! you made the list.
    http://www.hossmachine.info/X2_Travel_Increases.html
    Hoss
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    Well done!

    I'd been planning to do something very similar to my X2 mill. When I recut the dovetails, I did the necessary cuts on the base so I could add extensions and move the column back, much like you did.

    But you definitely beat me to the finish. Congratulations.

    Fred

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    Got mine in about a week.....they may stock them now?

    Robert

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoss2006 View Post
    Excellent work! you made the list.
    Thanks! I'm honored I'm just glad to have been able to give back to the community.

    BTW - The cost would be about $10 for materials, $10 for socket head screws and $5 for JB Weld. $25 to $50 for tooling.

    I figure I'll get another 0.5" on the Z axis as well.
    ~Don

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