[RussMachine]

I just stumbled across this posting.
Dallas Craigslist.
PCNC 1100, Series II for sale. Asking $4500.
I would snatch it up, if I had $4500 lying around. (And any more room in my garage) :tired:
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Dallas TORMACH, $4500

[AVRnj]

This machine would concern me a bit not being able to turn it on and try it out.

If there is anything wrong, the deal is no long a deal, and it turns out to be a headache.

[tmarks11]

It always worries me when I see pictures of machinery outdoors.

I ask myself "did they move it outdoors for the aesthetics of the picture with trees in the background, or is it being stored outdoors in the rain"?

Bring a generator and a pc, and test it out...

[WOTDesigns]

It always worries me when I see pictures of machinery outdoors.

I ask myself "did they move it outdoors for the aesthetics of the picture with trees in the background, or is it being stored outdoors in the rain"?

Bring a generator and a pc, and test it out...

LOL.... Yeah... They moved it outdoors for a better picture by didn't even bother wiping it with a wet rag to get the clinging chips off. Funny.

Price is pretty tempting if I was close though.

Brian
WOT Designs

[tmarks11]

Brian-

wait a sec, aren't you trying to get rid of the one you have, not collect more?

[LeeWay]

If you think about it logically, it may have been in a school where is could have seen numerous crashes or accidental abuse. I would think it has more than hobby hours on it and less than production hours. It is 6 or 7 years old. I don't know what Series this would be and how much it would cost to upgrade to the current production class. Just for what it is and it's age, I think it is probably priced a little high when you consider the cost of a new one. Normally when you buy a used mill, you get some tooling with it as well to help offset the cost.
Not the case here.

[WOTDesigns]

Brian-

wait a sec, aren't you trying to get rid of the one you have, not collect more?

Haha, yes. But if it was a working machine in decent shape for $5000 I'd be all over it. One are I'll have to buy another machine later this year but I'm looking for an engraving machine with high speed spindle and tool changer. I need 0.0003 or better accuracy and repeatability which means tapered tool holders for embossing stamps. Ran 36 parts while sleeping last night on the HAAS and it took 8 hours... No good on my per part cost. Machine maintance will overcome my profit at that speed. 0.003" engraver... Need 10-15K spindle and high repeatability as well as excellent acceleration /deceleration

Brian
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[tmarks11]

Need 10-15K spindle and high repeatability as well as excellent acceleration /deceleration

Maybe you should rethink selling the Tormach. Buy one of those cheap 20-30k water cooled auxiliary spindles from eBay, and mount it on the Tormach.

[jid2]

I'll have to buy another machine later this year but I'm looking for an engraving machine with high speed spindle and tool changer

Brian
WOT Designs

Could you just switch to laser marking and outsource it?

[WOTDesigns]

It's not engraving it's embossing O1 tool steel. I'm afraid Tormach isn't even close on accuracy or height repeatability and I can't accept the surface finish Tormach leaves on ever part I've ever made.

For reference the font height is 3mm. These are the larger of the letters. Lower case is 2.2-2.5mm.
0.0005" step over & down is a little out of my trust level on a Tormach.

Attachment 263244

Brian
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[jid2]

That looks like real 3D work, just with small tools. You could stick an air turbine spindle is your Haas.

[WOTDesigns]

Like this?

Attachment 263270

Brian
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[WOTDesigns]

I have been a little afraid to use it with tool changes since I have to manually remove the "S0000" call, add M51 to turn it on and M19 to lock the spindle. It's no big deal, but I know eventually I'll forget and wind the cord up and damage... Who knows what.

This one is 60k rpm. Just ran these letters on the mill with it and about to measure and see it the tool survived. Even 60x magnification can't show a broken tip at this size.

I have to write down the length and retouch

Brian
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[Hirudin]

Do you guys think this is the same machine?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKNLzpPHmeQ

If so, it looks like we'll probably get to see whether it was a good buy or not.

[Learning2Machin]

Do you guys think this is the same machine?



If so, it looks like we'll probably get to see whether it was a good buy or not.

Yeah, no doubt, that is definitely it.

[dbruins]

Same garage and same guy as in the video in this post where he claims in post #4 that it is indeed the infamous Dallas Machine.