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  1. #21
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    Yes, the book ratings on my servos are: 90Volts DC, 12 amp continuous, 20 amp peak.

    Everyone told me I wouldn't notice the 80VDC drop of the Geckos.

    For me it means a lotto be able to get parts quickly.

    After my machine is running, an extra: Gecko320x, AMT 103 encoder, & a few other spare parts will be bought for emergencies.

    I have power in my cabinet now.

    JAckal :cheers:


    PS. Yesterday (Northwest Arkansas) was about 108 degrees actual temperature, 115 in shop and the wall facing west was around 128 to 132 degrees.
    Everything is bio-degradable, if you run over it enough times with the lawnmower.

  2. #22
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    Smile Retrofit on Hurco KM3P

    I don't know if you seen this on the gecko website, Support.IT is called RETURNED ENERGY DUMP. It keeps the voltage from going up from back EMF ect.
    Dave
    Support

  3. #23
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    Dave,

    I thought about that and seriously looked into building one.

    It appears that my Hurco ( & hopefully yours) has a back emf circuit protector.

    Look at this thread from earlier:

    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/hurco/...citors_my.html

    JAckal:cheers:
    Everything is bio-degradable, if you run over it enough times with the lawnmower.

  4. #24
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    I forgot about that. Going to watch the voltage when I first run it.
    Got it apar.t Servo rack out, wiring out, control with monitors off, wires out of tube support.
    Got to trace some of the wires that go to the other side.
    It is 5:38 pm 91 deg.s out Glad I got air in the hurco room.
    Dave

  5. #25
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    91 degrees???? You lucky dog

    Air conditioner, too

    That sounds good. Maybe next year I'll have some air, too.

    Right now it's killer hot.(flame2):tiredchair)(chair)


    Dave, have you looked at the Mach3 site ?

    It has some great info over there, too.

    Machsupport Forum - Index


    JAckal :cheers:
    Everything is bio-degradable, if you run over it enough times with the lawnmower.

  6. #26
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    Smile Retrofit on Hurco KM3P

    Just about got the one cabinet cleaned out. Behind the relay panel
    there is a isolation transformer 120 in 120 volts out. Might be a filter.
    The back emf filter in the other cabinet has three sections to it. I think it is in the spindle 3 phase motor. Haven't got there yet. 12 volts will move
    the X, Y & Z. for checking limits switches. I moved the table around today
    If that filter is in the spindle motor only, it won't help on the servos. I will need help with steps per turn on the axes. Going to be a few weeks before I order parts. I live on 10 acres, so there is more to do than play. Done rambling.
    Going to bed. It is midnight. Thanks for being here.
    Dave

  7. #27
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    Dave,

    You're gonna be done with yours before I am.


    JAckal:cheers:
    Everything is bio-degradable, if you run over it enough times with the lawnmower.

  8. #28
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    Smile

    I have worked on the Hucro off & on. I am powering with 220 singal phase.
    I am getting my 110 volts from the transformer. Better filtering ad less draw.
    I turn it off & on with a contacter. Taken turns off the transformer to get 80 volts. Got a temporary panel on the computer side cabinet to power up the transformers. Got a bridge rectifier and capacitor mounted on the right
    ( computer ) cabinet side. What did you use for a bleeder resister on the capacitor? It will stay charged up for a long time. Going to mount the computer on the control head with monitor. I want to control everything from there. The main disconnect will always be on. Going to space a panel out about 5 or 6 " where the servo amp. was, to mount the servo drivers and bob there. Haven't posted any pix. yet. I am using Firefox, and I don't have any paper clip.
    Hope you can understand this.
    Dave

  9. #29
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    Smile

    I got 76.9 volts dc for the servos.
    Dave

  10. #30
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    Dave,

    I haven't put a bleed resistor on the power supply caps, yet.

    For now when it gets shut down you can watch the LED"s in the Gecko drives glow for about 25 seconds. < I don't think this will hurt. If this is bad someone let me know.

    Send me your pics Dave, and if you don't mind I'll post them on here for you.

    The swing out door where the power supply was, is where I mounted my Geckos.

    I know, I need to get some pics of mine on here.

    There is so much work lately, I haven't touched the Hurco.:tired::tired::tired:

    e-mail me those pics, Dave.

    JAckal :cheers:
    Everything is bio-degradable, if you run over it enough times with the lawnmower.

  11. #31
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    Just adding a picture.

    It was 115*deg outside temp today. At 2:30 pm it was 126* in my shop.

    Had to go in the house.:tiredflame2)(flame2)

    Here is a pic of the inside of my Hurco air control valve. If I can just spend a few minutes a day on the Hurco it makes me feel better.

    The box is item #6 in the first pic:

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    You can see in this pic, the cover is removed. The scale is showing the air pressure at which the valve closes.

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    Nothing really impressive. Maybe this will help someone having problems with their air valve, or machine not coming on due to air problems.

    JAckal :cheers:
    Everything is bio-degradable, if you run over it enough times with the lawnmower.

  12. #32
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    Dave,

    You were telling me about how you were mounting your Geckos.

    Here is a few pics of mine:

    This is the swing out door that had the low voltage power supply mounted inside.
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    I have the Geckos mounted where the black X's are drawn.
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    The factory inlet fan on the cabinet door will blow directly on the Geckos.
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    Will get an updated pic with the Geckos mounted.

    JAckal:cheers:
    Everything is bio-degradable, if you run over it enough times with the lawnmower.

  13. #33
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    Another pic with the AMT encoder mounted:

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    These weren't that hard to mount. I have read some horror stories of them breaking and slipping, & such.

    Maybe, I just got lucky, or haven't ran them yet.

    After running them for a while, they may give me fits, and I'll be looking at the articles that tell how to lock them better.

    JAckal:cheers:
    Everything is bio-degradable, if you run over it enough times with the lawnmower.

  14. #34
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    Here are some pics of inside the cabinet ( control side):


    Close up of the fuses ( between power supply & Geckos).
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    Gecko's mounted on swing out panel. This is the panel that the Hurco power supply was mounted on. Later, I may put some heat sinks on the inside where the fan is blowing on it.
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    The capacitors & rectifier.
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    The cooling fan. I added this from Newegg computer accessories. It is a 120mm fan with 75?????cfm of flow.
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    This shows how the mounting plate swings out.You can see the extra cooling fan behind it. This mounting plate come off of the hinges easily, in case I need to look at the Geckos close up or something.
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    This is the PMDX 126 board mounted. Not everything is hooked up. The #107 spindle control is also on there. You have to look close to see it.

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    More to come.

    JAckal :cheers:
    Everything is bio-degradable, if you run over it enough times with the lawnmower.

  15. #35
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    Jack,
    Everything is looking good. I am mounting a aluminum panel spaced out
    5 1/2 " from the back upper left hand corner where the old servo drivers were.
    This is where i will mount the drivers and bob.
    What size capacitor are you using on your 80 volt power supply? I am using the one off the original servo amp. What about fuses ? What size. You are ahead of me. It is good to see you are making progress. Thanks for the pictures. They really help.
    :waveave

  16. #36
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    Dave,

    I'm using the factory capacitors x 2.

    I had an extra set of servo amps and took the cap out of that set and added it.

    The fuses are 12 amp slow blow.

    Here is a link to the discussion on it:

    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/gecko_...ecko_320x.html

    That is what made me decide to go with fuses.

    Thanks for the good words, Dave.

    I am starting to get more motivated. Our actual temperature here in NW Arkansas is 110 to 115 degrees.(flame2)(flame2):tired::tired::tired:

    JAckal :cheers:
    Everything is bio-degradable, if you run over it enough times with the lawnmower.

  17. #37
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    Smile

    We finally got rain today. They say we will be in the middle to upper 80 this week. I can handle that. Wish we lived closer to you. Oh well. Thanks for the info. dave

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    What are you doing about the ACC relay?

  19. #39
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    efinkg,

    Are you talking about on the B_o_B?

    If so, I will probably hook up my coolant pump to it, and the smaller relay will open for an add-on later.

    JAckal:cheers:
    Everything is bio-degradable, if you run over it enough times with the lawnmower.

  20. #40
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    Dave,

    It would be nice to live closer together, but I wouldn't wish this weather on anyone.

    JAckal :cheers:
    Everything is bio-degradable, if you run over it enough times with the lawnmower.

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