[keithmcelhinney]

If the lathe came with a tennis bracelet it may work! Why did you choose this lathe over something like the grizzly 4002? It seems like a better built machine (and variable speed), but the capacity of the 4002 is much more. I have the 4000 and it leaves much to be desired in the quality department. I haven't gone up to Grizzly yet to compare them side by side but with my very limited knowledge I am not sure I would be able to make a well informed decision anyway. Now if I can only find a way to bribe you to come over and help set it up! Haha!

[Mikbul]

If the lathe came with a tennis bracelet it may work! Why did you choose this lathe over something like the grizzly 4002? It seems like a better built machine (and variable speed), but the capacity of the 4002 is much more. I have the 4000 and it leaves much to be desired in the quality department. I haven't gone up to Grizzly yet to compare them side by side but with my very limited knowledge I am not sure I would be able to make a well informed decision anyway. Now if I can only find a way to bribe you to come over and help set it up! Haha!

Several reasons: My 7X16 is variable speed so I'm used to that, I don't need huge capacity, I'll be ordering the 5" D1-3 chuck for it and that's all I'll need. I like the D1-3 chuck, like my 7X16 I used the 3" chuck for certain jobs and the 4" chuck for others. Bonus is no bolts to fiddle with on the D1-3! The quality is also something that really caught my eye, Hardened 3-way V - Bed, oil or grease fittings on everything, 1-1/8" spindle bore, hand scraped dovetails, etc. etc.. Set up was easy, I'm just swamped at work so I can't get back to it! Tonight I threw a piece of ground rod in the chuck to see where that's at. First shot was 1.5 thous. at the chuck and same three inches out. Trouble is if I re-chucked it got worse. My fault, I didn't totally clean the chuck and look for burrs etc. If it's still all over after the proper cleaning then bummer! Let's wait and see what the weekend brings. The ONLY other snag I've run into is the spindle sleeve being off . I'm sending it to Miller Machine to fix. Thing is, SB sells the sleeves for $10.00 and Miller Machine gets $60.00. I would expect to pay more for tighter tolerances. I don't think the MT4.5 spindle sleeve and the chuck are up to the standards of the rest of the lathe. The 5" SB chuck is a true D1-3 with two piece jaws and the 4" that comes with it is bolted to a D1-3 adapter and no two piece jaws. Also it doesn't say South Bend on it so I know it's not made in the same factory as the top of the line SB chucks. Hey, I'm not complaining, I knew this going in, but it does have an oil fitting and is better quality than what came with my 7X16 for sure. The 10K comes with the 5", I wish you could order a lathe with the chuck you want. I 'd pay more for that option. Actually I will be!Attachment 205728

[Mikbul]

I need to hang my unit heater, and finish the insulation in my shop. It's getting COLD out there! So more on the lathe will have to be in bits and pieces. The insulation in the ceiling will just drop in so that will go quick. What's left on the one wall I have to cut , fit and caulk the edges. I need a robot.

[Mikbul]

Several reasons: My 7X16 is variable speed so I'm used to that, I don't need huge capacity, I'll be ordering the 5" D1-3 chuck for it and that's all I'll need. I like the D1-3 chuck, like my 7X16 I used the 3" chuck for certain jobs and the 4" chuck for others. Bonus is no bolts to fiddle with on the D1-3! The quality is also something that really caught my eye, Hardened 3-way V - Bed, oil or grease fittings on everything, 1-1/8" spindle bore, hand scraped dovetails, etc. etc.. Set up was easy, I'm just swamped at work so I can't get back to it! Tonight I threw a piece of ground rod in the chuck to see where that's at. First shot was 1.5 thous. at the chuck and same three inches out. Trouble is if I re-chucked it got worse. My fault, I didn't totally clean the chuck and look for burrs etc. If it's still all over after the proper cleaning then bummer! Let's wait and see what the weekend brings. The ONLY other snag I've run into is the spindle sleeve being off . I'm sending it to Miller Machine to fix. Thing is, SB sells the sleeves for $10.00 and Miller Machine gets $60.00. I would expect to pay more for tighter tolerances. I don't think the MT4.5 spindle sleeve and the chuck are up to the standards of the rest of the lathe. The 5" SB chuck is a true D1-3 with two piece jaws and the 4" that comes with it is bolted to a D1-3 adapter and no two piece jaws. Also it doesn't say South Bend on it so I know it's not made in the same factory as the top of the line SB chucks. Hey, I'm not complaining, I knew this going in, but it does have an oil fitting and is better quality than what came with my 7X16 for sure. The 10K comes with the 5", I wish you could order a lathe with the chuck you want. I 'd pay more for that option. Actually I will be!Attachment 205728

I need to re-tract what I said about the chuck, it does say South Bend on it! I must not have had my glasses on. Sorry Pappy! It's soaking right now and should be cleaned up today. Also .0015 and .0015 are not bad for a three jaw, just something was hanging up but I'll get it.

[voere]

I am strongly considering buying this lathe in the near future so I am looking at this review with a great deal of interest.Please keep the posts coming.I've e-mailed Grizzly about the cost to ship to Canada.Hope to hear from them soon.Looking forward to a review on the 5" D1-3 chuck.Wonder how a CNC conversion would go on this machine?I think with the current sale price they should be able to move quite a few machines and there will be many more reviews.

[Mikbul]

I am strongly considering buying this lathe in the near future so I am looking at this review with a great deal of interest.Please keep the posts coming.I've e-mailed Grizzly about the cost to ship to Canada.Hope to hear from them soon.Looking forward to a review on the 5" D1-3 chuck.Wonder how a CNC conversion would go on this machine?I think with the current sale price they should be able to move quite a few machines and there will be many more reviews.

Problems I had with the 4" chuck are getting better and better the more I clean it. I'm hesitant to totally disassemble it. It has a registration mark when you install it so I'd hate to make it worse. What I've been doing is submerging the chuck in mineral spirits upside down and spinning the scroll with the chuck key. It's made a world of difference, doesn't stick anymore and is very smooth with Vactrose II in it. My first tests were
.0015-.004.004-.003-.005etc.

Tonight my first test was 0!
2. .001
3. .001
4. .001

In between tests I loosened the chuck and spun the ground rod. If this is any indication the 5"D1-3 should be a good one!

[Mikbul]

Called Grizzly tech. support late today and a South Bend tech. will be calling me tomorrow about the sleeve. I'm also going to ask him about the five inch SB chuck, expected run out etc. I also read the manual again and found a very important page. I must have been asleep when I read it! The D1-3 chuck when on all the way you need to tap it with a rubber mallet to get it off the taper. Mine just comes right off. The manual says : "If the tapers released easily with little intervention, they are not seated together firmly as required. Remove the chuck, re-clean the mating surfaces carefully, and re-install. If the problem persists, contact our Tech Support"

I'm obviously not familiar with D1 camlocks!

[Mikbul]

Called Grizzly tech. support late today and a South Bend tech. will be calling me tomorrow about the sleeve. I'm also going to ask him about the five inch SB chuck, expected run out etc. I also read the manual again and found a very important page. I must have been asleep when I read it! The D1-3 chuck when on all the way you need to tap it with a rubber mallet to get it off the taper. Mine just comes right off. The manual says : "If the tapers released easily with little intervention, they are not seated together firmly as required. Remove the chuck, re-clean the mating surfaces carefully, and re-install. If the problem persists, contact our Tech Support"

I'm obviously not familiar with D1 camlocks!

Found problem with D1 chuck, one stud is screwed out one turn farther than the others. With my calipers it's 25 thou higher than the others. Also the alignment mark should be 90-180 degrees from reference mark when tight, it's past 180. Easy to adjust, take out locking bolt and turn!

[Mikbul]

New spindle sleeve is on the way from Grizzly, no hassles, good tech support. Started the spindle break in tonight, 45 rpms in belted back gear! Anyway ten minutes at 50, 500, 900, 1800, and 2300 rpm. Then 2300 rpm in reverse for ten minutes. I also cleaned the pulleys with string, works great. That stud that was out too far wouldn't turn in another turn, thought it was bottomed out, or a pile of swarf down there. Nope, clean as a whistle so I stuck a rag on the stud and grabbed it with pliers. The threads just needed a little time back and forth and got another turn and a half, only needed one. Now all cam lock marks are between 90-180 degrees from the spindle mark. The chuck still comes off easy but the spindle taper is slightly scuffed so I know it's centered. I could pull all three cam lock studs and put the back of the chuck on a flat with fine sand paper and oil and just slightly give it a circle. I'll wait and re-examine the chuck back for a high spot, a burr etc. Re-tested chuck run out and got .001", same as before, so the tapers are definitely touching. I'm curious to see how the 5" chuck seats, I guess I need to order one!:drowning:

[Mikbul]

I am strongly considering buying this lathe in the near future so I am looking at this review with a great deal of interest.Please keep the posts coming.I've e-mailed Grizzly about the cost to ship to Canada.Hope to hear from them soon.Looking forward to a review on the 5" D1-3 chuck.Wonder how a CNC conversion would go on this machine?I think with the current sale price they should be able to move quite a few machines and there will be many more reviews.

Have not heard from our Canadian friend, there are two reviews on the 5" chuck, stay in touch. Also consider having it shipped to somewhere across the border and go pick it up, I heard it might be cheaper that way?

[voere]

Have not heard from our Canadian friend, there are two reviews on the 5" chuck, stay in touch. Also consider having it shipped to somewhere across the border and go pick it up, I heard it might be cheaper that way?

Still here and reading the posts on the SB1001 every day.On the fence about buying one since I heard that they are discontinued.Worried about support from South Bend in the future.All the posts that I have read on this and other forums are pretty positive about this machine so it's still in the running.Wizbaa is from Canada and he PM me that the total cost of the SB1001 was $2380 delivered to his door.Not a bad price for quality.

[Mikbul]

Still here and reading the posts on the SB1001 every day.On the fence about buying one since I heard that they are discontinued.Worried about support from South Bend in the future.All the posts that I have read on this and other forums are pretty positive about this machine so it's still in the running.Wizbaa is from Canada and he PM me that the total cost of the SB1001 was $2380 delivered to his door.Not a bad price for quality.

I wouldn't worry about parts availability, their still making and selling parts for 50 year old machines, they still have the molds, etc. Keith just picked one up and asked about the machine being discontinued and he was told no.

[Mikbul]

At this point I'd have to say the only issue AT ALL I have is not with the lathe but the 4.5MT-3MT sleeve and I think it only fair to call and see if they will send another and see if it's more accurate. If I didn't have a 12" test bar that fits in the spindle it might not be an issue. At the sleeve it's only .0005 out.
As far as the rest of the lathe I can't see how you could go wrong.