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  1. #1
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    Mar 2011
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    Help me understand Cutter Comp.

    I had a situation yesterday where I was running a program cutting a pocket, and I was dealing with tool wear. My pocket ended up a little tight, and I did not have access to a CAM system to simply reprogram it. I started thinking about my options, and that's when I thought of cutter comp. I have never really used it, so I don't understand how to position it within the program. I could have added cutter comp without ever reprogramming, and got the clearance I needed on my pocket.

    The program I am running is a small pocket done with a 1/8" endmill. The pocket is odd shaped and not round. I have a full depth cut (-.020") to spiral from inside to outside with a .025 stepover, and then a final contour of the walls at full depth.

    Here is the program:

    %
    O0000
    N1 G20
    N2 G0 G17 G40 G49 G80 G90
    N3 T1 M6
    N4 G0 G90 G54 X.7763 Y-1.3824 S10000 M3
    N5 G43 H1 Z2. M8
    N6 G4P5
    N7 Z.01
    N8 G1 Z-.02 F.3
    N9 G3 X.7669 Y-1.373 I-.0094 J0. F5.5
    N10 X.7576 Y-1.3824 I0. J-.0094
    N11 X.7794 Y-1.4042 I.0218 J0.
    N12 X.8013 Y-1.3824 I0. J.0218
    N13 X.7669 Y-1.348 I-.0344 J0.
    N14 X.7326 Y-1.3824 I0. J-.0344
    N15 X.7794 Y-1.4292 I.0468 J0.
    N16 X.8263 Y-1.3824 I0. J.0468
    N17 X.7669 Y-1.323 I-.0594 J0.
    N18 X.7076 Y-1.3824 I0. J-.0594
    N19 X.7794 Y-1.4542 I.0718 J0.
    N20 X.8513 Y-1.3824 I0. J.0718
    N21 X.7669 Y-1.298 I-.0844 J0.
    N22 X.7534 Y-1.2991 I0. J-.0844
    N23 G1 X.6908 Y-1.346
    N24 G3 X.6826 Y-1.3824 I.0761 J-.0364
    N25 X.7794 Y-1.4792 I.0968 J0.
    N26 X.8763 Y-1.3824 I0. J.0968
    N27 X.7891 Y-1.2753 I-.1094 J0.
    N28 G1 X.6582 Y-1.371
    N29 G3 X.6576 Y-1.3824 I.1087 J-.0114
    N30 X.753 Y-1.5014 I.1218 J0.
    N31 X.7542 Y-1.5011 I-.0113 J.0393
    N32 G2 X.8627 Y-1.4714 I.4864 J-1.5674
    N33 G3 X.8997 Y-1.4021 I-.0833 J.089
    N34 G1 Y-1.3618
    N35 G3 X.8176 Y-1.258 I-.1328 J-.0206
    N36 G1 X.6328 Y-1.3905
    N37 G3 X.6705 Y-1.4809 I.1466 J.0081
    N38 G1 X.8997 Y-1.2943
    N39 G3 X.8442 Y-1.243 I-.1328 J-.0881
    N40 G1 X.6095 Y-1.4083
    N41 G3 X.6298 Y-1.4669 I.1699 J.0259
    N42 G1 X.8997 Y-1.2545
    N43 G3 X.87 Y-1.2295 I-.1328 J-.1279
    N44 G1 X.5873 Y-1.4254
    N45 G3 X.5966 Y-1.4555 I.1921 J.043
    N46 G1 X.7284 Y-1.5008
    N47 G3 X.7417 Y-1.503 I.0133 J.0387
    N48 X.7542 Y-1.5011 I0. J.0409
    N49 G2 X.886 Y-1.4661 I.4864 J-1.5674
    N50 G3 X.8997 Y-1.449 I-.0038 J.0171
    N51 G1 Y-1.243
    N52 G3 X.8822 Y-1.2255 I-.0175 J0.
    N53 X.8745 Y-1.2273 I0. J-.0175
    N54 X.7218 Y-1.3223 I.4112 J-.8314
    N55 G1 X.5889 Y-1.4241
    N56 G3 X.582 Y-1.438 I.0106 J-.0139
    N57 X.5938 Y-1.4546 I.0175 J0.
    N58 G1 X.5966 Y-1.4555
    N59 G0 Z.05
    N60 X.9097 Y-1.449
    N61 Z.01
    N62 G1 Z-.02 F.3
    N63 Y-1.243 F5.5
    N64 G3 X.8822 Y-1.2155 I-.0275 J0.
    N65 X.87 Y-1.2184 I0. J-.0275
    N66 X.7157 Y-1.3144 I.4157 J-.8403
    N67 G1 X.5828 Y-1.4162
    N68 G3 X.572 Y-1.438 I.0167 J-.0218
    N69 X.5906 Y-1.464 I.0275 J0.
    N70 G1 X.7251 Y-1.5103
    N71 G3 X.7417 Y-1.5131 I.0166 J.0482
    N72 X.7572 Y-1.5106 I0. J.051
    N73 G2 X.8882 Y-1.4758 I.4834 J-1.5579
    N74 G3 X.9097 Y-1.449 I-.006 J.0268
    N75 G0 Z2.
    N76 M5
    N77 M9
    N78 M30
    %

    Lines 1-59 are the spiral roughing of the pocket. The final contour of the walls starts at line 60.

    After reading about cutter comp, I understand the difference between the two. If I am looking a the tool from behind the cut, G41 is left and G42 is right. In this case, I am climb milling the pocket, which means I'm cutting in a counterclockwise motion. I would assume that when compensation is necessary, it would only be needed on the final contour pass of the program. If this is the case, I am thinking that a G42 (cutter comp right) should be put in somewhere around or before line 60. I also understand that I have to have a D in there as well, and since the tool number is 1, I can use D1. D1 references the offset page where I can then enter the exact size of my tool - say .124", for tool #1.

    When the pocket operation is finished, I need the G40 to cancel. I would think it would be entered somewhere around line 74 or 75.

    A few questions:

    1. Can the G42 D1 be entered on its own line, or does it have to be entered in a line with a G1 move?

    2. Just as number #1, can the G40 be entered on its own line or does it have to be entered into a line with a G1 move?

    3. When cutter comp is active, will it effect Z axis moves? I'm thinking that it will only affect X and Y since those are the G17 plane.

    Some examples of how this should be coded would be great. I'm trying to understand this because I know I will be using it a lot going forward.

    Thanks

  2. #2
    Join Date
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    Re: Help me understand Cutter Comp.

    Cutter comp has to be programed in from teh start on MOST Gcode systems. I would suggest a Gcode programming book by Peter Smid.

    (;-) TP

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
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    Re: Help me understand Cutter Comp.

    i would think that you could add cutter comp at line n63
    G1G42D1X.9097Y-1.243F5.5
    Because the cutter comp was not thought of at the time of programming your cutter comp in tool 1 would be 0 then if you needed to make the pocket larger you would put in -.xxxx in to the offset
    The G42/G40 needs to be added on a G01 line with movement and will affect only x/y

    this is a sample sub routine with cutter comp
    N1101
    G00 Z0.7
    G01 Z0.526 F12.
    G41 D10 Y0.0572
    G01 X0.167
    G01 Y-0.0572
    G01 X0.76
    G01 Y0.0572 F10.
    G01 X0.167
    Y-0.0572
    X0.76
    G40 X0.83 Y0.
    G00 Z1.5
    M99

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
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    1792

    Re: Help me understand Cutter Comp.

    While lead-in/lead-out moves are needed with G41/G42, I believe these can be in separate blocks also.

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