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  1. #1

    Aspire and Mach3 doing random things

    Hope someone can help.
    I have loaded the gecko 540 xml file and gone through and set up all the limit switches. When I hit the home button it homes perfectly, I can move the spindle to a certain point and zero everything and thats fine, but when I load my gcode from aspire all seems normal till I hit start and it sends the machine crashing into the ends of there travel, and the limit switches don't seem to stop it. It seems to go in different directions with the same gcode. So far it has taken aim at every corner of the machine before I hit stop.
    Thanks

  2. #2
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    Re: Aspire and Mach3 doing random things

    I don't know much about aspire, but when I am using my current program if I don't set the starting point (Machining Origin) then the cutter heads to where I have drawn the part.

    let me see if I can explain the better. lets say you have a part that is centered at X1,Y1 but your cutter is at 0,0 whenever you hit "start" the cutter is going to move to 1,1 to the location of where you part is.

    you need to specify in your program that the center of your piece is 1,1 because your cutter is at 0,0. or move your drawing to where is centered at 0,0 and then you will always start in the right place when cutting.

    please understand I am only using simple number to explain this.

  3. #3
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    Re: Aspire and Mach3 doing random things

    blackdoglaser

    Similar to the above post, Your part 0.0 must match where you have placed your machine X0Y0. points

    Usually in your drawing you place the X0Y0. position either top left hand corner or the bottom left hand corner, of cause it can be anywhere on the part, but you have to know were

    So when you place your work on your machine, you then move/set the machines X & Y Axes where ever you have your drawn part X0 Y0. this then becomes your G54 machine offset position
    Mactec54

  4. #4

    Re: Aspire and Mach3 doing random things

    I don't know much about aspire, but when I am using my current program if I don't set the starting point (Machining Origin) then the cutter heads to where I have drawn the part.

    let me see if I can explain the better. lets say you have a part that is centered at X1,Y1 but your cutter is at 0,0 whenever you hit "start" the cutter is going to move to 1,1 to the location of where you part is.

    you need to specify in your program that the center of your piece is 1,1 because your cutter is at 0,0. or move your drawing to where is centered at 0,0 and then you will always start in the right place when cutting.

    please understand I am only using simple number to explain this.


    I have set the starting point by moving the cutter to the centre of the workpiece and zeroing all the axis. When I move off that point and hit zero it returns to where I set it. I can move it to home position and it will still go back to my chosen zero zero point but when I hit start it takes off at speed into one corner of the machine.

  5. #5

    Re: Aspire and Mach3 doing random things

    I have got that part sorted I believe. It takes off at speed to a random place on the machine when I hit go. It doesn't go to home position and it doesn't stop when it gets to the end of the travel.

  6. #6
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    Re: Aspire and Mach3 doing random things

    Quote Originally Posted by blackdoglaser View Post
    I have got that part sorted I believe. It takes off at speed to a random place on the machine when I hit go. It doesn't go to home position and it doesn't stop when it gets to the end of the travel.
    Post the G-code Program, and we will see what is happening, you can paste it in a post or save it as text and attach it
    Mactec54

  7. #7

    Re: Aspire and Mach3 doing random things

    Is this what you needed?
    I just tried running it again. I homed the machine perfectly to the left front then moved the cutter to the centre of my workpeice and zero'ed all the axis'. As soon as I hit start the spindle goes straight to the top and triggers the z limit switch. When I press start again it went at speed towards the left rear of the machine and would have crashed if I had not stopped it.
    I can't figure out if it's an issue with the gcode or something to do with mach3 settings.


    ( test )
    ( File created: Tuesday February 16 2016 - 06:58 PM)
    ( for Mach2/3 from Vectric )
    ( Material Size)
    ( X= 285.000, Y= 210.000, Z= 18.000)
    ()
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    (V-Carve 1)
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  8. #8
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    Re: Aspire and Mach3 doing random things

    [QUOTE=blackdoglaser;1836286]Is this what you needed?
    I just tried running it again. I homed the machine perfectly to the left front then moved the cutter to the centre of my workpeice and zero'ed all the axis'. As soon as I hit start the spindle goes straight to the top and triggers the z limit switch. When I press start again it went at speed towards the left rear of the machine and would have crashed if I had not stopped it.
    I can't figure out if it's an issue with the gcode or something to do with mach3 settings.[QUOTE]

    Have a go with this, is your machine set up with metric or Inches, when you homed your Zaxes, did you then set the Tool height off the top of your work


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  9. #9
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    Re: Aspire and Mach3 doing random things

    This is probably sending the Z axis up:
    N140G00G43Z20.000H1

    As for speeding to the left rear, that's where your g-code is telling it go. X - 40

    Your issues are with Aspire. Mach3 is doing exactly what the g-code is telling it to do.
    Gerry

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  10. #10
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    Re: Aspire and Mach3 doing random things

    Unit miss match or incorrect steps per possibly? Out of curiosity why do you have origin at center of part?

    Something else up though if your limit switches are being overridden or not registering.

  11. #11

    Re: Aspire and Mach3 doing random things

    Machine is set up in mm. Yes I set tool height at zero just touching the material.

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