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  1. #1
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    Hand torch to machine torch

    Hi,

    I have a powermax 900 with a pac125 hand torch, i have been trying to hold it like a machine torch but the trouble is the torch body has the air pipe coming out of the side.

    Im thinking i can get round this by buying the machine torch body and putting it on the end of my wires, then buying the tube that fits around it and make a machine torch from parts, this should save me quite a bit over buying a new torch.

    Am i wrong? or is it that simple?

    Also what size would the clamping tube of the torch be on the outside? the bit that fits into the torch holder.

    thanks

    matt

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    Matt,

    I'll get back to you a little later this morning on the details and parts required for switching over to a machine torch for your 900. I'm plowing out about 1200' of steep NH roads at my place in NH....had a bunch of snow yesterday and high winds.....snow drifts are 4' deep! The Tractor and my F250 will get a workout...

    Jim

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    You probably could put a machine torch on your hand torch leads, although you will have to change some connections inside the torch.....and.....from a liability point of view I cannot offer advice on doiung that as you will be interfering with the safety circuitry on the system.

    The best upgrade for the 900 is to put the newer style RT60 torch on your machine as it will breath new life into your older Powermax900. The RT60 torch is similar to the Powermax1000 torch.....which cuts faster, pierces thicker, and provides longer consumable life as compared to the older PAC125 torch that you currently have.

    Attached is the brochure that talks about upgrading. If you still want to try to adapt the machine torch to the hand torch leads....you can order just the machine torch body and the mounting sleeve separately....part numbers will be in your Powermax900 manual. If you cannot find the part numbers get back to me and I will look them up for you.

    Best regards, Jim Colt


    Quote Originally Posted by matttargett4 View Post
    Hi,

    I have a powermax 900 with a pac125 hand torch, i have been trying to hold it like a machine torch but the trouble is the torch body has the air pipe coming out of the side.

    Im thinking i can get round this by buying the machine torch body and putting it on the end of my wires, then buying the tube that fits around it and make a machine torch from parts, this should save me quite a bit over buying a new torch.

    Am i wrong? or is it that simple?

    Also what size would the clamping tube of the torch be on the outside? the bit that fits into the torch holder.

    thanks

    matt
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    Jim,

    Thanks for your help, funny thing is since christmas my supplier has hiked the price on their parts so where it would have been cheaper to do what i was talking about its now cheaper to buy the rt60 upgrade so thats what ive done, is a ashame since i have a bunch of pac125 consumables but ill have to see if i can ebay them or something.

    Thanks again

    Matt

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    I think you will like the new torch....

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    was the RT60 upgrade noticeably worth it? I've got a powermax800 with pac121 machine torch, I'm thinking of upgrading to the rt60 to improve the cut, I'm more interested in an upgrade in quality than consumable life.

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    You will see faster speeds, better cut quality, longer consumable life.....those are the reasons that the RT60 and RT80 torches were made available for older Hypertherm systems. They are the same technology torches that are used on the Powermax1000, 1250 and 1650 systems. I am, of course, a little biased as I work for Hypertherm.....so hopefully a few users of the RT torches will chime in!

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimcolt View Post
    You will see faster speeds, better cut quality, longer consumable life.....those are the reasons that the RT60 and RT80 torches were made available for older Hypertherm systems. They are the same technology torches that are used on the Powermax1000, 1250 and 1650 systems. I am, of course, a little biased as I work for Hypertherm.....so hopefully a few users of the RT torches will chime in!

    Jim
    thanks Jim,

    you've very helpfully replied to a thread of mine before, regarding adding a THC to a Burny/Max100 system (http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showpo...6&postcount=36), but I've recently picked up this powermax800 for a couple of hundred in a risky punt on ebay- the torch was cut off (weird), but I rewired it and it all works fine, I've connected it to the Burny now. I'm hoping to improve cut quality over the max100 on thinner materials. But I'm wondering whether it'd be worth spending GBP500 on the RT60 for an old machine- as I said, it's cut quality I'm after (I'll order finecut consumables for whichever torch I end up using). If you take the speed and consumable life out of the equation, is there a marked improvement in edge quality or bevel? Or are the new machines much better than the 800+RT60 (although a new powermax 45 with machine torch would cost four times the 800/RT60 combo...)

    steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimcolt View Post
    You will see faster speeds, better cut quality, longer consumable life.....those are the reasons that the RT60 and RT80 torches were made available for older Hypertherm systems. They are the same technology torches that are used on the Powermax1000, 1250 and 1650 systems. I am, of course, a little biased as I work for Hypertherm.....so hopefully a few users of the RT torches will chime in!

    Jim
    thanks Jim,

    you've very helpfully replied to a thread of mine before, regarding adding a THC to a Burny/Max100 system (http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showpo...6&postcount=36), but I've recently picked up this powermax800 for a couple of hundred in a risky punt on ebay- the torch was cut off (weird), but I rewired it and it all works fine, I've connected it to the Burny now. I'm hoping to improve cut quality over the max100 on thinner materials. But I'm wondering whether it'd be worth spending GBP500 on the RT60 for an old machine- as I said, it's cut quality I'm after (I'll order finecut consumables for whichever torch I end up using). If you take the speed and consumable life out of the equation, is there a marked improvement in edge quality or bevel? Or are the new machines much better than the 800+RT60 (although a new powermax 45 with machine torch would cost four times the 800/RT60 combo...)

    steve

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