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  1. #1
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    bistable flip flop

    Hey gang,

    I would like to get ttl logic to toggle back and forth from high to low by pushing on a momentary contact pushbutton.

    any suggestions for a circuit?

    Owen

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    Do you mean you want a logic level oscillator to start on the pulsh of a button?

    Phil

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    Owen, Do you have a 7474? If I recall from my ttl days wire the PB to the Clock, connect /Q (Q bar out) back to the D input and use the Q output. If I remember correctly this will toggle the output every pulse.
    I will have to dig out my old notes, unless someone has a better idea.
    Al
    BTW tie the clear and set high for normal operation.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

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    Originally posted by pminmo
    Do you mean you want a logic level oscillator to start on the pulsh of a button?

    Phil
    Phil, not an oscillator per se. I want to poke a momentary contact switch and have it send a circuit to high and have that circuit stay high. Then I'd like it to send the circuit to lo when it gets pushed again.

    So far I've wired a 555 timer to debounce a push button switch, and now I'm looking for it to flip-flop a ttl circuit.

    owen

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    one more question, is the push button double throw? i.e. has normally open and normally closed contacs? The reason I ask is if it has both contacts you can do the dbounce with one half a flip flop.

    Phil

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    Originally posted by pminmo
    one more question, is the push button double throw? i.e. has normally open and normally closed contacs? The reason I ask is if it has both contacts you can do the dbounce with one half a flip flop.

    Phil
    single pole.

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    This one has worked for me, it has a 7404 debounce circuit into the 7474 dual D flip-flop.
    Al
    Oops I hope I can make the File a bit bigger!
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails toggle2.gif  

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    Hoo boy.

    I'm laughing out loud here because I'm really anxious to get a circuit and I clicked on yours and got this unreadable picture.

    Al, could you be kind enough to try to post again, or just send it to [email protected]

    thank much :-)

    owen

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    I'm glad to see someone still does it this way.
    Give the problem to a student today, and there is a good chance he would come up with a PC Pentium4 3GHz w. 1GB RAM and a VB program to solve your problem. :-)

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    Al,

    just to follow up, the circuit worked great. I went with using a 555 for the debouncing part because that's what I had on hand. The circuit is included here...

    owen
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails toggle.jpg  

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    Owen, Glad it worked, I date back to when we had to do this at one time with discrete components, that was a challenge!. Hail the IC.
    Al
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
    Albert E.

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    Al,

    I think maybe we were separated at birth.

    remember when it wasnt possible to go to the net and get a data sheet on chip?

    because there wasnt a net...

    or computers...

    or chips. :-)

    owen

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    dunno, looks too hitech to me
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails bistable flip flop transistor toggle.gif  
    maybe...

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    yeah I saw that one on the net. I couldnt go with the transistor approach because I'm only operating at 5 volt levels. good to include here if anyone searching this site later on.

    owen

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