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  1. #1
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    Unhappy npt threads

    hi can anyone give me an example of a 4 inch npt thread program for fanuc. thanks

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    Are you turning or milling the threads? Also are they ID or OD?
    Bill

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    i'm turning the thread on the od. i'm using a single line G76 but i have no data on npt threads.
    thanks

    steve

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    You don't have Machinery's Handbook? Shame, shame

    The taper of all National Pipe threads is 3/4" per foot on the diameter, which translates into .0625" change in X for every inch of Z travel.

    The effective thread length for 4" NPT is 1.300 inches. Supposing you begin .2" in front, the amount of taper in 1.5" is .09375", which is the amount you would use in your G76, and here I'm guessing, parameter "I" would be either .0469 (if I is a radial value) or else .09375 if it is a diametral value.

    The pitch diameter at the beginning of the external thread is 4.33438". This can be measured using the "two wire method", if you are accustomed to using Peedee wires to check.

    FYI, All pipe threads from 2.5" pipe on up, are 8tpi.
    First you get good, then you get fast. Then grouchiness sets in.

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Sorry Scuba Steve,
    I was out for a couple of days. Here is the format we use for OD NPT threads. You can use Hu's info above. This example is for a 1" - 11 1/2 NPT.

    T0900G97S1800M03(THREAD)
    G00G40X1.375Z.3T0909
    G76P020160M08
    G76X1.1219Z-.60R0.0231P570Q130F0.08696M24
    Z0.3
    G00G28U0
    Z1.0
    M05
    M01
    Gunner

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    thanks to all it really helped:rainfro:

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    Hey Scuba, anytime you need something just give me a shout I would be more than happy to help anytime ...goes for anyone else out there also.

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    I've been doing NPT threads recently which is a bit of a bar steward as the relevant info isnt in the Metric Machinists Handbook.

    Bloody yanks

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    prolly because npt are National (american) Pipe Threads . Metrics would be BSPT or British Standard Pipe Threads

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    AFAIK, I don't think the metric system even knows about any kind of taper pipe threads. Straight pipe yes, tapered, no. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why the Imperial measurement system is superior

    But, I could be wrong.
    First you get good, then you get fast. Then grouchiness sets in.

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Originally posted by HuFlungDung

    But, I could be wrong.
    Yeah, you are

    We have the BSP (British Standard Pipe) and also a tapered version of it, the BSPT (British Standard Pipe Taper)

    Imperial, Superior ?? Hahaha #

    The Metric programming system on a Fanuc uses a 3/3 format. 3 digits before and after the decimal point. As far as i'm aware the Imperial system uses a 3/4 format. The 4th digit on the imperial system represents a Tenth of a Thou which is 2.54 microns whereas the 3rd digit on the Metric system represents 1 micon making our system 2.54 times as accurate

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    Isn't it funny how all those "metric pipe threads" are so and so many threads per inch, in whole numbers?
    First you get good, then you get fast. Then grouchiness sets in.

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Originally posted by HuFlungDung
    Isn't it funny how all those "metric pipe threads" are so and so many threads per inch, in whole numbers?
    Yeah, even in our Metric Handbook quite a few of the threads have the info written down in Imperial and we have to convert it.

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    Here's a free program (no tricks) that has detailed info for 192 screw threads, including NPT. One click toggles inch/metric data format. I have an updated version with data for about 1000 threads - planning to charge $20 for it.


    http://dl.winsite.com/bin/downl?14000000036793


    Mike Rainey
    [email protected]

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