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  1. 01-30-2015, 03:19 PM #1
    aldepoalo
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    Re: V25 - Several Problems... not sure how to solve.

    After getting more information from ferrumdg, I understand the issue with posting happens when using a pecking cycle and having more than 1 op. So let's look at the code and see what is going on.

    Here is a peck cycle by itself:


    Code:
    %100
N0001 ( P: CNC ZONE GUY.NC)
N0002 ( POST:  FAGOR 8025M METRIC)
N0003 ( DATE: FRI. 01/30/2015)
N0004 ( TIME: 09:13AM)
N0005 G90 G80 G71 G40 G17
N0006 (Machine Setup - 1  Drill)
N0007 (FEATURE MILL HOLE - 12.0000)
N0008 ( TOOL CHANGE )
N0009 M05
N0010 G44
N0011 G74 Z X
N0012 T00.2 M06
N0013G43
N0014 S4107 M03
N0015 G54
N0016 G00 G90 X40. Y0. Z25.4
N0017 M08
N0018 Z5.08
N0019 Z2.54
N0020 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0021 G00 Z2.54
N0022 Z-0.92
N0023 G01 Z-9.46
N0024 G00 Z2.54
N0025 Z-6.92
N0026 G01 Z-13.605
N0027 G00 Z2.54
N0028 Z5.08
N0029 X12.361 Y38.042
N0030 Z2.54
N0031 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0032 G00 Z2.54
N0033 Z-0.92
N0034 G01 Z-9.46
N0035 G00 Z2.54
N0036 Z-6.92
N0037 G01 Z-13.605
N0038 G00 Z2.54
N0039 Z5.08
N0040 X-32.361 Y23.511
N0041 Z2.54
N0042 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0043 G00 Z2.54
N0044 Z-0.92
N0045 G01 Z-9.46
N0046 G00 Z2.54
N0047 Z-6.92
N0048 G01 Z-13.605
N0049 G00 Z2.54
N0050 Z5.08
N0051 Y-23.511
N0052 Z2.54
N0053 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0054 G00 Z2.54
N0055 Z-0.92
N0056 G01 Z-9.46
N0057 G00 Z2.54
N0058 Z-6.92
N0059 G01 Z-13.605
N0060 G00 Z2.54
N0061 Z5.08
N0062 X12.361 Y-38.042
N0063 Z2.54
N0064 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0065 G00 Z2.54
N0066 Z-0.92
N0067 G01 Z-9.46
N0068 G00 Z2.54
N0069 Z-6.92
N0070 G01 Z-13.605
N0071 G00 Z2.54
N0072 Z5.08
N0073 Z25.4
N0074 M09
N0075 M05
N0076 G74 Z X
N0077 M30
    Here is a peck cycle with a pocketing op:


    Code:
    %100
N0001 ( P: CNC ZONE GUY.NC)
N0002 ( POST:  FAGOR 8025M METRIC)
N0003 ( DATE: FRI. 01/30/2015)
N0004 ( TIME: 09:17AM)
N0005 G90 G80 G71 G40 G17
N0006 (Machine Setup - 1  Drill)
N0007 (FEATURE MILL HOLE - 12.0000)
N0008 ( TOOL CHANGE )
N0009 M05
N0010 G44
N0011 G74 Z X
N0012 T00.2 M06
N0013G43
N0014 S4107 M03
N0015 G54
N0016 G00 G90 X40. Y0. Z25.4
N0017 M08
N0018 Z5.08
N0019 Z2.54
N0020 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0021 G00 Z2.54
N0022 Z-0.92
N0023 G01 Z-9.46
N0024 G00 Z2.54
N0025 Z-6.92
N0026 G01 Z-13.605
N0027 G00 Z2.54
N0028 Z5.08
N0029 X12.361 Y38.042
N0030 Z2.54
N0031 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0032 G00 Z2.54
N0033 Z-0.92
N0034 G01 Z-9.46
N0035 G00 Z2.54
N0036 Z-6.92
N0037 G01 Z-13.605
N0038 G00 Z2.54
N0039 Z5.08
N0040 X-32.361 Y23.511
N0041 Z2.54
N0042 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0043 G00 Z2.54
N0044 Z-0.92
N0045 G01 Z-9.46
N0046 G00 Z2.54
N0047 Z-6.92
N0048 G01 Z-13.605
N0049 G00 Z2.54
N0050 Z5.08
N0051 Y-23.511
N0052 Z2.54
N0053 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0054 G00 Z2.54
N0055 Z-0.92
N0056 G01 Z-9.46
N0057 G00 Z2.54
N0058 Z-6.92
N0059 G01 Z-13.605
N0060 G00 Z2.54
N0061 Z5.08
N0062 X12.361 Y-38.042
N0063 Z2.54
N0064 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0065 G00 Z2.54
N0066 Z-0.92
N0067 G01 Z-9.46
N0068 G00 Z2.54
N0069 Z-6.92
N0070 G01 Z-13.605
N0071 G00 Z2.54
N0072 Z5.08
N0073 Z25.4
N0074 M09
N0075 M05
(Machine Setup - 1  Pocket)
(FEATURE 2 AXIS)
N0076 ( TOOL CHANGE )
N0077 M05
N0078 G74 Z X
N0079 T00.3 M06
N0080G43
N0081 S9857 M03
N0082 G54
N0083 G90
N0084 X2.119 Y0.
N0085 M08
N0086 G00 Z5.08
N0087 Z2.54
N0088 G01 Z0. F2879.
N0089 Z-12.7
N0090 G17 G03 X-2.119 Y0. R2.119 F5759.
N0091 G03 X2.119 Y0. R2.119
N0092 G01 X4.619
N0093 G03 X-4.619 Y0. R4.619
N0094 G03 X4.619 Y0. R4.619
N0095 G01 X7.119
N0096 G03 X-7.119 Y0. R7.119
N0097 G03 X7.119 Y0. R7.119
N0098 G01 X9.619
N0099 G03 X-9.619 Y0. R9.619
N0100 G03 X9.619 Y0. R9.619
N0101 G01 X12.119
N0102 G03 X-12.119 Y0. R12.119
N0103 G03 X12.119 Y0. R12.119
N0104 G01 X14.619
N0105 G03 X-14.619 Y0. R14.619
N0106 G03 X14.619 Y0. R14.619
N0107 G01 X17.119
N0108 G03 X-17.119 Y0. R17.119
N0109 G03 X17.119 Y0. R17.119
N0110 G01 X19.619
N0111 G03 X-19.619 Y0. R19.619
N0112 G03 X19.619 Y0. R19.619
N0113 G01 X22.119
N0114 G03 X-22.119 Y0. R22.119
N0115 G03 X22.119 Y0. R22.119
N0116 G01 X24.619
N0117 G03 X-24.619 Y0. R24.619
N0118 G03 X24.619 Y0. R24.619
N0119 G01 X27.119
N0120 G03 X-27.119 Y0. R27.119
N0121 G03 X27.119 Y0. R27.119
N0122 G00 Z5.08
N0123 Z25.4
N0124 M09
N0125 M05
N0126 G74 Z X
N0127 M30
    Here is the complete sample like I posted before, the only change is using a pecking cycle:


    Code:
    %100
N0001 ( P: CNC ZONE GUY.NC)
N0002 ( POST:  FAGOR 8025M METRIC)
N0003 ( DATE: FRI. 01/30/2015)
N0004 ( TIME: 09:18AM)
N0005 G90 G80 G71 G40 G17
N0006 (Machine Setup - 1  Center Drill)
N0007 (FEATURE MILL HOLE - 12.0000)
N0008 ( TOOL CHANGE )
N0009 M05
N0010 G44
N0011 G74 Z X
N0012 T00.1 M06
N0013G43
N0014 S4435 M03
N0015 G54
N0016 G00 G90 X40. Y0. Z25.4
N0017 M08
N0018 Z5.08
N0019 G81  X40. Y0. Z2.54 I-2.032 F324. N1
N0020 X12.361 Y38.042
N0021 X-32.361 Y23.511
N0022 Y-23.511
N0023 X12.361 Y-38.042
N0024 G00 Z5.08
N0025 Z25.4
N0026 M09
N0027 M05
(Machine Setup - 1  Drill)
(FEATURE MILL HOLE - 12.0000)
N0028 ( TOOL CHANGE )
N0029 M05
N0030 G74 Z X
N0031 T00.2 M06
N0032G43
N0033 S4107 M03
N0034 G54
N0035 G90
N0036 X40. Y0.
N0037 M08
N0038 G00 Z5.08
N0039 Z2.54
N0040 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0041 G00 Z2.54
N0042 Z-0.92
N0043 G01 Z-9.46
N0044 G00 Z2.54
N0045 Z-6.92
N0046 G01 Z-13.605
N0047 G00 Z2.54
N0048 Z5.08
N0049 X12.361 Y38.042
N0050 Z2.54
N0051 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0052 G00 Z2.54
N0053 Z-0.92
N0054 G01 Z-9.46
N0055 G00 Z2.54
N0056 Z-6.92
N0057 G01 Z-13.605
N0058 G00 Z2.54
N0059 Z5.08
N0060 X-32.361 Y23.511
N0061 Z2.54
N0062 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0063 G00 Z2.54
N0064 Z-0.92
N0065 G01 Z-9.46
N0066 G00 Z2.54
N0067 Z-6.92
N0068 G01 Z-13.605
N0069 G00 Z2.54
N0070 Z5.08
N0071 Y-23.511
N0072 Z2.54
N0073 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0074 G00 Z2.54
N0075 Z-0.92
N0076 G01 Z-9.46
N0077 G00 Z2.54
N0078 Z-6.92
N0079 G01 Z-13.605
N0080 G00 Z2.54
N0081 Z5.08
N0082 X12.361 Y-38.042
N0083 Z2.54
N0084 G01 Z-3.46 F300.
N0085 G00 Z2.54
N0086 Z-0.92
N0087 G01 Z-9.46
N0088 G00 Z2.54
N0089 Z-6.92
N0090 G01 Z-13.605
N0091 G00 Z2.54
N0092 Z5.08
N0093 Z25.4
N0094 M09
N0095 M05
(Machine Setup - 1  Pocket)
(FEATURE 2 AXIS)
N0096 ( TOOL CHANGE )
N0097 M05
N0098 G74 Z X
N0099 T00.3 M06
N0100G43
N0101 S9857 M03
N0102 G54
N0103 G90
N0104 X2.119 Y0.
N0105 M08
N0106 G00 Z5.08
N0107 Z2.54
N0108 G01 Z0. F2879.
N0109 Z-12.7
N0110 G17 G03 X-2.119 Y0. R2.119 F5759.
N0111 G03 X2.119 Y0. R2.119
N0112 G01 X4.619
N0113 G03 X-4.619 Y0. R4.619
N0114 G03 X4.619 Y0. R4.619
N0115 G01 X7.119
N0116 G03 X-7.119 Y0. R7.119
N0117 G03 X7.119 Y0. R7.119
N0118 G01 X9.619
N0119 G03 X-9.619 Y0. R9.619
N0120 G03 X9.619 Y0. R9.619
N0121 G01 X12.119
N0122 G03 X-12.119 Y0. R12.119
N0123 G03 X12.119 Y0. R12.119
N0124 G01 X14.619
N0125 G03 X-14.619 Y0. R14.619
N0126 G03 X14.619 Y0. R14.619
N0127 G01 X17.119
N0128 G03 X-17.119 Y0. R17.119
N0129 G03 X17.119 Y0. R17.119
N0130 G01 X19.619
N0131 G03 X-19.619 Y0. R19.619
N0132 G03 X19.619 Y0. R19.619
N0133 G01 X22.119
N0134 G03 X-22.119 Y0. R22.119
N0135 G03 X22.119 Y0. R22.119
N0136 G01 X24.619
N0137 G03 X-24.619 Y0. R24.619
N0138 G03 X24.619 Y0. R24.619
N0139 G01 X27.119
N0140 G03 X-27.119 Y0. R27.119
N0141 G03 X27.119 Y0. R27.119
N0142 G00 Z5.08
N0143 Z25.4
N0144 M09
N0145 M05
(Machine Setup - 1  Profile Finish)
(FEATURE 2 AXIS)
N0146 ( TOOL CHANGE )
N0147 M05
N0148 G74 Z X
N0149 T00.4 M06
N0150G43
N0151 S9857 M03
N0152 G54
N0153 G90
N0154 X21.15 Y0.
N0155 M08
N0156 G00 Z5.08
N0157 Z2.54
N0158 G01 Z-12.7 F1440.
N0159 Y-6.35 F2879.
N0160 G17 G03 X27.5 Y0. R6.35
N0161 G03 X-27.5 Y0. R27.5
N0162 G03 X27.5 Y0. R27.5
N0163 G03 X21.15 Y6.35 R6.35
N0164 G01 Y0.
N0165 G00 Z5.08
N0166 Z25.4
(Machine Setup - 1  Profile Finish)
(FEATURE 2 AXIS)
N0167 S9857
N0168 G54
N0169 G90
N0170 X-58.85 Y40.
N0171 Z5.08
N0172 Z2.54
N0173 G01 Z-5. F1440.
N0174 Y33.65 F2879.
N0175 G03 X-52.5 Y40. R6.35
N0176 G02 X-40. Y52.5 R12.5
N0177 G01 X40.
N0178 G02 X52.5 Y40. R12.5
N0179 G01 Y-40.
N0180 G02 X40. Y-52.5 R12.5
N0181 G01 X-40.
N0182 G02 X-52.5 Y-40. R12.5
N0183 G01 Y40.
N0184 G03 X-58.85 Y46.35 R6.35
N0185 G01 Y40.
N0186 G00 Z5.08
N0187 Z25.4
N0188 M09
N0189 M05
N0190 G74 Z X
N0191 M30
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  2. 01-30-2015, 07:17 PM #2
    aldepoalo
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    Re: V25 - Several Problems... not sure how to solve.

    "work I use the machine's Zero as a starting point (homing the all axis') and then use an 3D Probe to actually set Zero on the individual part"

    Between runs did you re home the machine? How does you machine pick up home, limit switches?
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  3. 01-30-2015, 07:33 PM #3
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    Re: V25 - Several Problems... not sure how to solve.

    Quote Originally Posted by aldepoalo View Post
    "work I use the machine's Zero as a starting point (homing the all axis') and then use an 3D Probe to actually set Zero on the individual part"

    Between runs did you re home the machine? How does you machine pick up home, limit switches?
    basically the servos are indexed.

    I'm no expert on how those things work...
    but it has both - limit switches (overrun protection) and index.
    from what I gather it uses the indexer for homing.

    But the problem is - the machine is old and the company who makes it isn't around anymore.
    It was a smaller swiss company building the mill for the watch making industry.

    I didn't get any proper documentation or anything like that.
    so it's a tad difficult to be certain.


    However it certainly is not an issue of the machine I guess...
    why? - because all other operations work as they should... before and after.

    Don't get me wrong - if you think I'm using the wrong approach, by all means - let me know...
    I'm all in favor of constructive criticism.
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