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  1. #41
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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    Sharpie for a reference? Might be repeatable to what .1"?
    A lazy man does it twice.

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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    Quote Originally Posted by Fastest1 View Post
    Sharpie for a reference? Might be repeatable to what .1"?
    If your a Special kind of Special maybe. I'm a pessimist too so I know where your coming from though.

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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    Pessimist? We have machines that can cut at tolerances well under .001 and you think you can eyeball a close proximity? Get your calipers out again and look at how small of an increment we are talking. If close is good enough.
    A lazy man does it twice.

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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    " If close is good enough." Yes, maybe....depends. Not arguing or trying to ruffle feathers. Real quick I wanted to point out I was talking about a reference point on a drill bit. I think if you marked it right you could get really close. Close enough I don't know. Would I recommend it? NO.

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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    I'm pulling my hair out. I haven't gotten to the ice pic in the eye yet. I am getting an error in Mach3 saying that my soft limits exceeded and I think it's in the Z axis. I don't know if it's because the tool table in my CAM are being posted in the G-code and Mach3 is adding it's tool table lengths to that.... Can someone send me a sample G-code that they know is good. I don't know if it's my CAM or POST or what.

    The beginning of the G-code is:

    ; T2 D=0.375 CR=0 - ZMIN=0 - FLAT END MILL
    : G90 G40 G94
    G17
    G70
    M26
    ; 2D POCKET2
    M9
    M26
    :T2 M6
    ; 2 FLUTE FLAT ENDMILL
    M26
    S1540 M3
    H0
    M8
    G0 X2.0651 Y1.178
    Z1.795
    Z1.3969
    G1 Z0.9325 F28
    X2.0662 Y1.1775 Z0.923 F23
    X2.0695 Y1.1761 Z0.9141
    X2.0749 Y1.174 Z0.9064
    X2.0819 Y1.1716 Z0.9004
    X2.0903 Y1.1691 Z0.8966

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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    You should NOT have any M26s in your program. That is re-setting machine zero, which will lead to all kinds of nasty problems.

    Regards,
    Ray L.

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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    Thanks Ray. Any ideas how it is being inserted? I will ask on the HSM forum.

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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    I founded it. It was under the file save format. I had it set to mach2mill format. But when I went back to look I saw it had a .NC format. Changed it back to mach2mill and THEN changed my file save location. Came back and it was back in the .NC format. Yet another bug in Mach3 ver. .66. I am gong to find out what is the better version and reinstall that instead of .66

    This is the new G-code using the .tap format.

    (1)
    (T2 D=0.375 CR=0. - ZMIN=0. - FLAT END MILL)
    G90 G94 G17
    G20
    G28 G91 Z0.
    G90

    (2D POCKET2)
    M5
    M9
    T2 M6
    (2 FLUTE FLAT ENDMILL)
    S1540 M3
    G54
    M8
    G0 X2.0651 Y1.178
    G43 Z1.795 H0
    Z1.3969
    G1 Z0.9325 F28.
    G3 X2.0662 Y1.1775 Z0.923 I0.0718 J0.163 F23.
    X2.0695 Y1.1761 Z0.9141 I0.0706 J0.1635
    X2.0749 Y1.174 Z0.9064 I0.0673 J0.1649
    X2.0819 Y1.1716 Z0.9004 I0.062 J0.167
    X2.0903 Y1.1691 Z0.8966 I0.055 J0.1694
    X2.0995 Y1.1669 Z0.895 I0.0466 J0.1719
    X2.1743 Y1.5152 Z0.8755 I0.0374 J0.1742
    X2.0995 Y1.1669 Z0.8559 I-0.0374 J-0.1742
    X2.1743 Y1.5152 Z0.8364 I0.0374 J0.1742
    X2.0995 Y1.1669 Z0.8168 I-0.0374 J-0.1742
    X2.1743 Y1.5152 Z0.7973 I0.0374 J0.1742
    X2.0995 Y1.1669 Z0.7778 I-0.0374 J-0.1742

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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    Mach will open several types of files and remembers the last type it tried to open. Just hover over the options and select all to see all the files it will open or pick .tap or .txt.

    Also in your code, the number behind the H in the middle is the way that Mach knows which offset to put with that tool. It should be H2 for tool number 2.
    Go back into your tool definition in HSM and on the first screen, make sure the tool number and offset numbers(not actual offsets) match.
    That should help.
    Lee

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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    I have my Gcode like this for tool changes:

    T35 M06 G43 H35 T35 for tool 35, m06 for tool change, G43 for offset, H35 for offset value, as LeeWay mentioned, this should match your T value in HSM, and this tells Mach3 to use the offset value for this tool

    This always works for me, have to make sure HSM is not putting any negating codes in there too, usually it should work, but test with air before you do anything.

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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    Quote Originally Posted by AVRnj View Post
    I have my Gcode like this for tool changes:

    T35 M06 G43 H35 T35 for tool 35, m06 for tool change, G43 for offset, H35 for offset value, as LeeWay mentioned, this should match your T value in HSM, and this tells Mach3 to use the offset value for this tool

    This always works for me, have to make sure HSM is not putting any negating codes in there too, usually it should work, but test with air before you do anything.
    Keep in mind too that the order in which the "words" appear on the line makes no difference at all. All of the following will execute identically:

    G43 H35 T35 M06
    T35 H35 M06 G43
    M06 G43 T35 H35
    T35 M06 G43 H35
    or any of the other possible permutations....

    And the G43 Hn need not be on the same line as the M6 Tn. It may appear either on a line before or after the M6 Tn, and the code will execute the same, providing there are no Z axis moves between the two.

    Regards,
    Ray L.

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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    Quote Originally Posted by LeeWay View Post
    Mach will open several types of files and remembers the last type it tried to open. Just hover over the options and select all to see all the files it will open or pick .tap or .txt.

    Also in your code, the number behind the H in the middle is the way that Mach knows which offset to put with that tool. It should be H2 for tool number 2.
    Go back into your tool definition in HSM and on the first screen, make sure the tool number and offset numbers(not actual offsets) match.
    That should help.
    Perfect! I was wondering why I couldn't insert decimals in there. Thank you LeeWay!

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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    Thank you Ray and AVRnj. I will be cutting air and then wood at first. I will have more questions today I am sure.

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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    Success!! Thanks again for all the help! Now to build an enclosure and flood coolant system!

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    Re: Mach3 tool table and setting TTS tooling

    Enclosure first.
    Lee

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    I cant wait for an enclosure and a hose to flush it out with!

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