Re: Tormach 1100 S3 using Tormach 1.5" face mill....
Originally Posted by
dneisler
Gwizard:
.125" DOC
1.000" EWOC
1296 RPM
10.262 IPM
Originally Posted by
Steve Seebold
I have watched the depth of cut and feed rates people have posted that they got from GWizard, and they look to me like they would work quite well. IF YOU WERE WORKING ON A 20 HORSEPOWER MACHINE
Time to go back to the basics. We don't need a fancy calculator for this:
MRR= W X H X F
W = Width of cut
H = Depth of cut
F = Feed in inches per minute
HP = UHP X MRR
UHP = Unit HP (taken off chart)
MRR = Material Removal Rate
Aluminum .25
Steel 1.4-2.5
Alloys 2.0-3.3
so...
MRR=(0.125" DOC)*(1.000" EWC)*(10.262 IPM) = 1.28 cu in/min
HP = UHP X MRR = 0.25*1.28 = 0.32 HP
What was that you said again, Steve?
ok....now if he was cutting steel, this wouldn't work so well. And his choice of rpm (1300 rpm) does lead one to the natural conclusion he is cutting steel, so I guess I should cut you some slack... he didn't mention Aluminum until after your post, after all.
If this were a 20HP machine, it would be more like 400 ipm (although his choice of rpm and feed rate are less than optimum, and their DOC would be 2x+ his choice).
But, like everyone else said, why are you cutting so slow? Lets do some "classic" calculations:
speed = sfm * 4 / D = 800 * 4 / 1.5 = 2100 rpm
s = 800 fpm for Aluminum with carbide
D = tool diameter = 1.5"
feed = speed * CL * N = (2100 rpm) * (0.005"/tooth) * (3 flutes) = 32 ipm
CL = Chip Load (recommended by facemill manufacturer), lets assume 0.005"/tooth
N = # of flutes (I am guessing3 flutes, but YMMV)
Now lets work the HP formula backwards to find DOC (I based it on 0.75 HP to give you some power in reserve, with 1" WOC)
MRR = HP / UHP = 0.75 HP / 0.25 = 3 cu in/min
DOC = MRR / (W * F) = (3 cu in/min) / (1" * 32 ipm) = 0.0.093"
Same formulas that have been used for years, even before this new-fangled NC thing... Anyone want to post what gWizard says?
If I was just winging it, I probably would have dialed in 3000 rpm, 0.050" DOC, 1/2-2/3 step over per pass, 40 ipm. Increase DOC based upon sound/cutting load.
Tim
Tormach 1100-3, Grizzly G0709 lathe, Clausing 8520 mill, SolidWorks, HSMWorks.