[rckdef]

I understand in V3 you have to set the clearance plain in the Stock Wizard
What happens when you have several Features in one program. I want to use
.1000 clearance in some features and need to use .7000 in other features in
the same program---It seems to me once you set the clearance plain in a
multiple feature program it is set for all features in that program-????
Is there another Way-----Thanks. Rick

[BurrMan]

Maybe "multiple Machine setups?" I dont have V3 so I cant test the output...

[rckdef]

Nahh! that won't get it-
You would think that you could enter the clearance plain
as you are entering the parameters for each feature??

Lets hope that someone will jump in with some answer---Rick

[bobcad guy]

<------- has asked bobcad to make clearance plane editable within the feature, now maybe if I had some backup, that sends some e-mails, hmmmmmmm......

[BurrMan]

Nahh! that won't get it-
You would think that you could enter the clearance plain
as you are entering the parameters for each feature??

Lets hope that someone will jump in with some answer---Rick

Can you elaborate on "why that wont get it?"

Here's a file with 3 machine setups with different clearance planes set, and the code it outputs....

%
O0100 (PROGRAM NUMBER)

(BEGIN PREDATOR NC HEADER)
(MCH_FILE=4AXVMILL.MCH)
(COORD_SYS 1=X0 Y0 Z0)
(MTOOL T1 S1 D1. C0. A0. H4.5)
(MTOOL T2 S1 D.75 C0. A0. H3.875)
(MTOOL T3 S1 D.625 C0. A0. H3.75)
(SBOX X0. Y0. Z-.75 L10. W14. H.75)
(END PREDATOR NC HEADER)


(FIRST MACHINE SETUP - Machine Setup - 1)

(PROGRAM NAME - BOBCAD1.NC)
(POST -  BC_4X_MILL GENERIC FANUC)
(DATE - WED. 06/05/2013)
(TIME - 04:17PM)

N01 G00 G17 G40 G49 G94 G80 G20 G90
N02 G91 G90 G54

(FIRST CUT - FIRST TOOL)
(JOB 1  SLICE CUT PLANAR)
(FEATURE SLICE PLANAR)

(TOOL #1 1. ENDMILL ROUGH)

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N04 S1940 M03
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N06 G90 G54 X.0003 Y0. S1940 M03
N07 M10
N08 Z.1
N09 G01 Z0. F22.3148
N10 Y14. F44.6296
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N12 Y0.
N13 X.9
N14 Y14.
N15 X1.35
N16 Y0.
N17 X1.8
N18 Y14.
N19 X2.25
N20 Y0.
N21 X2.7
N22 Y14.
N23 X3.15
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N180 Y14.
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N182 Y0.
N183 X9.9
N184 Y14.
N185 X9.9998
N186 Y0.
N187 G00 Z.2

N188 M00
(NEXT MACHINE SETUP - Machine Setup - 2)

N189 M09
N190 M05
N191 G91 G54 Y0. X0.
N192 G90
N193 M01

(NEXT CUT - NEXT TOOL)
(JOB 2  SLICE CUT PLANAR)
(FEATURE SLICE PLANAR)

(TOOL #2ENDMILL ROUGH)
N194 T2 M06
N195 S2587 M03
N196 M11
N197 G43 H2 D2 Z5. M08
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N199 M10
N200 G00 Z.1
N201 G01 Z0. F29.7531
N202 Y14. F59.5061
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N204 Y0.
N205 X.9
N206 Y14.
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N208 Y0.
N209 X1.8
N210 Y14.
N211 X2.25
N212 Y0.
N213 X2.7
N214 Y14.
N215 X3.15
N216 Y0.
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N322 Y14.
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N346 Y0.
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N350 Y9.9094
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N365 Y14.
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N371 Y0.
N372 X9.
N373 Y14.
N374 X9.45
N375 Y0.
N376 X9.9
N377 Y14.
N378 X9.9998
N379 Y0.
N380 G00 Z5.

N381 M00
(NEXT MACHINE SETUP - Machine Setup - 3)

N382 M09
N383 M05
N384 G91 G54 Y0. X0.
N385 G90
N386 M01

(NEXT CUT - NEXT TOOL)
(JOB 3  SLICE CUT PLANAR)
(FEATURE SLICE PLANAR)

(TOOL #3ENDMILL ROUGH)
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N388 S3104 M03
N389 M11
N390 G43 H3 D3 Z.1 M08
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N392 M10
N393 G00
N394 G01 Z0. F35.7037
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N408 X3.15
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N784 G91 G54 A0.0
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N786 T1 M06
N787 M02

(END OF FILE)
(END OF PROGRAM)

N788 M30
%

[MikeTheG]

There seems to be a lot of confusion on how the clearance plane and rapid planes work since the new stock wizard and machine setup have been added.

The clearance plane is an absolute number that you enter. it will output what you enter .This is a safe move distance when you start the program and for moves between features. This number will change if you have stock set above your part Zero. For instance if you set the clearance plane to 1.0" and have the top of your stock at zero than your clearance plane output will be Z1.0" If you have 1" entered in your clearance plane and you have the top of your stock .250" above your set part zero , your clearance plane output will be z1.250"

This move will not happen when a feature is being executed. It is a good idea to always have your clearance plane higher than your rapid plane.

The rapid plane is for moves during a feature and is an incremental distance above top of part.

The feed plane is the distance above top of part were the tool will start feeding into the part. This is also an incremental distance above top of part.

MikeG

[rckdef]

You are right BurrMann--multiple Machine setups will do it--
I geuss that is the best we can do for now---Thanks for the info.--Rick

[rckdef]

Good information---MikeTheG
Thanks----Rick

[rckdef]

BurrMan--
See if i got this right--If i got a part that has two levels--
top of part is 0.0000 The second level is top of part -0.7776
If i set the clearance plain at .3 in the first operation
the tool is positioned .3 above top of part (0.0000) and it pockets
down to -0.7776. Tool comes back up to .3 (above 0.0000) goes back down to the
second feature at -0.7776 and profiles .25 deep---My question is
before going to the next feature will the tool go to .3 above 0.0000 or .3
above -0.7776 ???? Rick

[MikeTheG]

clearance plane is always an absolute above part zero , not top of part , rapid plane is an incremental distance above top of part value. Im not sure the reason you are wanting the different lifts. , If it is to jump clamps or cut down at different levels and not cut air , then you would use rapid plane and feed plane and have the clearance plane the same for whole program.

[rckdef]

Thanks Mike--Good explanation--I was cutting air
I think i understand it now--- Thanks again Rick

[bobcad guy]

clearance plane is always an absolute above part zero , not top of part , rapid plane is an incremental distance above top of part value. Im not sure the reason you are wanting the different lifts. , If it is to jump clamps or cut down at different levels and not cut air , then you would use rapid plane and feed plane and have the clearance plane the same for whole program.

this is not true if............... you pick more than one feature that is using a minus value as top of part. if you have top of part set at -.8 and there are two pockets cut in from that level, and use pick both as your geometry, the tool WILL NOT clearance plane between pockets, it will use the rapid plane set to below zero to rapid to next feature, and if there is a hub, or clamp there, oh well. to get a clearance plane move, you MUST break geometry into one at a time, which sucks if you want to make edits, you need to change each one the same. I already argued about this, and think we should be able to program the same if top of part is set at zero, or below.

[MikeTheG]

What version and build of bobcad are you using. If you are using 2 separate features in the cam tree for the pockets then it should lift to the clearance plane if this is not happening this needs to be reported to support for evaluation. If you are using the new V25 then just make the rapid plane high enough for clamps and put feed plane down low to get to rapid down to part . but the clearance plane should be working in V25. If not please post example


MikeG

[Jessebobcad]

This shows the part file that works correctly.

Clearance plane only outputs between features this is not to be confused with features of Solidworks. What this means is that if you have two Feature Pockets or a Feature Pocket and Feature Profile then it will output the clearance plane value when moving between these features. If you have a Feature Pocket (Single feature) and have multiple pockets selected it will output the rapid plane when moving between these features.

I have tested the part with a negative top of part and it still outputs the clearance plane correctly.

In my part it does the following:
Clearance plane move
Rapid plane move
Feed plane move
Top of part
Move to cut depth
Rapid plane move
Clearance plane move

*Note - In the attached part file my top of part is -1 and my Rapid plane is 3 this gives a final height of 2.

Additionally, this part was just used for testing. It is actually rapiding down into the part due to the settings that I have. Rapiding into part from rapid plane to feed plane.


This uses the same tool:
(TOOL #1 0.5 1/2 FLAT ROUGH ENDMILL - STANDARD)
N02 T1 M06
N03 G90 G54 X3.3165 Y6.6054 S595 M03
N04 G43 H1 D1 Z6. M08 Clearance
N05 Z2. Rapid
N06 Z-0.9Feed
N07 G01 Z-1. F3.3369Top of Part
N08 Z-1.1 Cut Depth
N09 Y4.7003 F6.6738
N10 X3.5859
N11 Y6.6054
N12 X3.3165
N13 Y6.8554
N14 X3.0665
N15 Y4.4503
N16 X3.8359
N17 Y6.8554
N18 X3.3165
N19 X3.0665
N20 Y7.1054
N21 X2.8165
N22 Y4.2003
N23 X4.0859
N24 Y7.1054
N25 X3.0665
N26 G00 Z2. Rapid
N27 Z6. Clearance

(NEXT CUT - SAME TOOL)
(JOB 2 POCKET)
(FEATURE POCKET)

N28 X9.9374 Y6.2062 S595
N29 Z2.
N30 Z-0.9
N31 G01 Z-1. F3.3369
N32 Z-1.1
N33 Y4.4374 F6.6738
N34 X10.3042
N35 Y6.2062
N36 X9.9374
N37 Y6.4562
N38 X9.6874
N39 Y4.1874
N40 X10.5542
N41 Y6.4562
N42 X9.9374
N43 X9.6874
N44 Y6.7062
N45 X9.4374
N46 Y3.9374
N47 X10.8042
N48 Y6.7062
N49 X9.6874
N50 G00 Z2.
N51 Z6.
N52 M09
N53 M05
N54 G91 G28 Z0.
N55 G90
N56 M01


To further elaborate:
If you have 4 holes on a square part with a stand up in between the right and left side or a clamp running down the middle. You will want to have two features. One that cuts the left side and one that cuts the right side. This is so that it uses the clearance plane and avoids the clamp/stand up.

Jesse

[bobcad guy]

you are correct jesse, bob WILL NOT clearance plane between two features, if chosen as one geometry. you MUST pick each thing separately or you will only return to the rapid plane, NOT the clearance plane.

[MikeTheG]

the confusion was the difference between solidworks features and bobcam features , we were stating bobcam features not the solidworks features .
Sorry bobcadguy , bobcad only sees what is selected to the features in the cam tree.

MikeG

- - - Updated - - -

the confusion was the difference between solidworks features and bobcam features , we were stating bobcam features not the solidworks features .
Sorry bobcadguy , bobcad only sees what is selected to the features in the cam tree.

MikeG

[SBC Cycle]

I would like someone to clarify how the rapid and feed planes are treated with the Advanced Rough feature, particularly when you are using step down passes.

For example, take a part one inch thick, mill down in equal steps of 0.250 until final depth of 1.000 is acheived.

Clearance Plane = 2.000
Rapid Plane = 0.333
Feed Plane = 0.121
Z Top of Part = 0

Here is a sample code output:

N374 X1.9388 Y-2.3349
N375 X1.9397 Y-2.3375
N376 X1.9409 Y-2.34
N377 X1.9521 Y-2.36
N378 G00 Z0.454
N379 X2.702 Y0.262
N380 Z-0.25
N381 G01 X2.6816 Y0.249 F231.9333
N382 X2.6794 Y0.2474
N383 X2.6776 Y0.2455

Where does Z0.454 come from?

Later in the file I get this Z motion that I can't explain or predict. The Z is machining the second step at Z-0.500 before this code sequence:

N1433 X1.9397 Y-2.3375
N1434 X1.9409 Y-2.34
N1435 X1.9521 Y-2.36
N1436 G00 Z-0.379 (rapid to feed plane 0.121 above -0.500)
N1437 Z-0.167 (rapid to rapid plane 0.333 above -0.500)
N1438 Z0.333 (rapid to rapid plane 0.333 above Top of Part)
N1439 X2.702 Y0.262
N1440 Z-0.129 (rapid to feed plane 0.121 above previous depth of cut -0.250)
N1441 Z-0.5 (rapid to depth of cut)
N1442 G01 X2.6816 Y0.249 F231.9333
N1443 X2.6794 Y0.2474
N1444 X2.6776 Y0.2455

Sample file attached, using the standard HaasVF post.

Related question: Is "Top of Part" the definition in the "rapid movements" or is it referring to the top of the "remaining" material when stepping down?

[jrmach]

Rapid plane = .333
Feed plane = .121
.333 + .121 = .454


Now this is interesting

Rapid plane = .100
Feed plane = .100
your Z will be .100


Now look at this

Rapid plane = .101
Feed Plane = .100
your Z will be .201

WTF


This is in V25 Pro,I don't know about V3

[SBC Cycle]

Rapid plane = .333
Feed plane = .121
.333 + .121 = .454

Thanks for the reply jrmach. Yes, I figured that's where the 0.454 value was calculated. This is what confuses me:

The rapid plane is for moves during a feature and is an incremental distance above top of part.

The feed plane is the distance above top of part were the tool will start feeding into the part. This is also an incremental distance above top of part.

MikeG

My top of part is "0", there shouldn't be any value above that within the feature if the above statement is true.

In the second example code, it appears the rapid plane is not incremental from the "Top of Part", it is incremental from the top of the previous cut (Z-0.250). If you browse the full code, you will see that sometimes it will lift to the rapid plane (0.333 above Top of Part "0") and sometimes it will only lift to the feed plane before moving to the next cut (this is the lift right before the second code example):

N1377 X2.0797 Y-2.3397
N1378 X2.081 Y-2.3423
N1379 X2.0912 Y-2.36
N1380 G00 Z-0.129 (rapid to feed plane - incremental from previous depth.  Why not rapid plane??  And why is the feed plane not -0.400 if the depth is -0.500??)
N1381 X2.8561 Y-1.4554
N1382 Z-0.5
N1383 G01 X2.8361 Y-1.4441 F231.9333
N1384 X2.8336 Y-1.4429
N1385 X2.831 Y-1.4421
.......
N1434 X1.9409 Y-2.34
N1435 X1.9521 Y-2.36
N1436 G00 Z-0.379
N1437 Z-0.167
N1438 Z0.333
N1439 X2.702 Y0.262
N1440 Z-0.129
N1441 Z-0.5
N1442 G01 X2.6816 Y0.249 F231.9333
N1443 X2.6794 Y0.2474
N1444 X2.6776 Y0.2455

[jrmach]

Yes,it sometimes does as you would expect,and other times...............Have you seen issues with other tool paths ? ?