[TonyW]

Hey all,

Will be installing a newer Haas VF3 in our shop soon. They did get us a 4th axis rotary table we had requested. Currently I use BobCAD V25 and it has 4-axis standard. Just wanted to ask if anyone out there is using 4-axis Pro? What are some reasons I would want to go pro instead of standard. What are the differences if used on a rotary table axis?

Thanks for your time

[aldepoalo]

Tony,

You have to understand that going to the 4 axis pro will also effect all the 3D programming you can do and how you simulate your prats. The 4 axis pro is the multi axis software which provides 7 surface based tool paths that you can use in 3 or 4 axis and also offer full machine simulation.

The 4 axis standard has indexing wrapping and rotary right? So for the indexing you just pick a surface or UCS to index to and cut from there. Use the wrapping is really only 3 axis cutting where 1 of the axis is substituted for a rotary movement. And Rotary tool path is where you are working with a solid and program along or around the part.

The 4 axis pro will program X Y Z A all at the same time. So it's true 4 axis. If you are going to be programming parts where all axis need to be moving at the same time, then 4 axis pro is the way to go. At the same time these 7 tool path options are very powerful and will give you more options for cutting in 3 axis. Like flow style or undercutting. For the type of machine you have I would highly recommend the 4 axis pro upgrade.



The following video clip is from MasterCam | MasterCam Tutorial Training | SolidWorks Tutorial | SolidWorks | Cad Cam They offer on line training on mastercam. I know why I am showing a link for mastercam right, well Karlo Apro wrote the book on 5 axis programming, no really you can purchase a copy from here. [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Secrets-5-Axis-Machining-Karlo-Apro/dp/0831133759]Secrets of 5-Axis Machining: Karlo Apro: 9780831133757: Amazon.com: Books[/ame] he is in this webinar talking about 3 4 and 5 axis programming. It's about an hour long but it's worth watching. I think it will better help you understand advantages of machine simulation and 4 and 5 axis programming.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqV_BWM6phY]Secrets of 5 Axis machining webinar with karlo Apro - YouTube[/ame]

[aldepoalo]

4 axis rotary sample code:

N22 Z1.5115 A13.404 F158.9728
N23 Z1.5386 A14.681 F153.4893
N24 Z1.5675 A15.957 F148.0009
N25 Z1.5828 A16.596 F286.4455
N26 Z1.5984 A17.234 F282.6766
N27 Z1.6146 A17.872 F276.6165
N28 Z1.6314 A18.511 F270.4845
N29 Z1.6485 A19.149 F266.8796
N30 Z1.666 A19.787 F262.1636
N31 Z1.6845 A20.426 F253.9683
N32 Z1.704 A21.064 F245.9593
N33 Z1.7209 A21.702 F261.8401
N34 Z1.7376 A22.34 F261.6942
N35 Z1.7526 A22.979 F271.7487
N36 Z1.7682 A23.617 F266.3334
N37 Z1.7818 A24.255 F278.5564
N38 Z1.7961 A24.894 F271.6626
N39 Z1.8085 A25.532 F282.9161
N40 Z1.8214 A26.17 F278.1024
N41 Z1.8327 A26.809 F287.0084
N42 Z1.8443 A27.447 F283.249
N43 Z1.8544 A28.085 F291.0584
N44 Z1.8648 A28.723 F287.6551
N45 Z1.8737 A29.362 F294.6629
N46 Z1.8831 A30. F291.2289
N47 Z1.8908 A30.638 F298.0426
N48 Z1.8991 A31.277 F294.424
N49 Z1.9056 A31.915 F300.8061
N50 Z1.9128 A32.553 F297.0556

4 Axis Pro morph between 2 curves sample code

N15 Y1.2107 Z-1.3855 A155.82 F490.3151
N16 Y1.186 Z-1.4183 A154.251 F487.5002
N17 Y1.1603 Z-1.4506 A152.674 F484.8755
N18 Y1.1336 Z-1.4823 A151.088 F482.4412
N19 Y1.1058 Z-1.5135 A149.496 F480.1973
N20 Y1.0547 Z-1.5666 A146.679 F271.5458
N21 Y1.0007 Z-1.6174 A143.845 F269.8271
N22 Y0.9439 Z-1.6658 A140.995 F268.443
N23 Y0.8845 Z-1.7114 A138.135 F267.3933
N24 Y0.8504 Z-1.7356 A136.538 F478.7227
N25 Y0.8156 Z-1.7589 A134.938 F478.1939
N26 Y0.7801 Z-1.7812 A133.338 F477.8517
N27 Y0.744 Z-1.8025 A131.737 F477.6958
N28 Y0.7073 Z-1.8227 A130.136 F477.7265
N29 Y0.6701 Z-1.842 A128.536 F477.9436
N30 Y0.6324 Z-1.8602 A126.937 F478.3473
N31 Y0.5943 Z-1.8773 A125.34 F478.9373
N32 Y0.5589 Z-1.892 A123.877 F522.6456
N33 Y0.4873 Z-1.9186 A120.959 F262.0973
N34 Y0.4148 Z-1.9415 A118.055 F263.387
N35 Y0.3417 Z-1.9606 A115.169 F265.0189
N36 Y0.265 Z-1.9764 A112.176 F255.5963
N37 Y0.225 Z-1.983 A110.626 F493.4586
N38 Y0.185 Z-1.9885 A109.084 F495.9772
N39 Y0.1451 Z-1.993 A107.551 F498.6823
N40 Y0.1053 Z-1.9963 A106.026 F501.5739
N41 Y0.0657 Z-1.9986 A104.511 F504.652
N42 Y0.0263 Z-1.9998 A103.005 F507.9166
N43 Y-0.0129 Z-1.9999 A101.508 F510.982
N44 Y-0.0852 Z-1.9976 A98.743 F276.5974
N45 Y-0.1582 Z-1.9916 A95.946 F273.4255
N46 Y-0.2316 Z-1.982 A93.119 F270.5959
N47 Y-0.305 Z-1.9687 A90.267 F268.1084
N48 Y-0.3458 Z-1.9596 A88.67 F479.1125
N49 Y-0.3865 Z-1.9493 A87.067 F477.1571
N50 Y-0.4271 Z-1.9379 A85.459 F475.3921
N51 Y-0.4674 Z-1.9253 A83.845 F473.8173

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsnOxB043w]4 Axis Rotary vs Morph Between 2 Curves - YouTube[/ame]

[VladoNeykov]

Hi there,

Can anybody give me a link for router G and M codes.
I need to lean a little bit more about router codes.
I am trying to find information what does G8 do. Or C0.
What P1 and P0 do for the routers.

thanks in advance

Vlado

[TonyW]

Thanks Al. Guess I will be looking to get an upgrade to Pro then. Will watch for a deal on it and let our sales guy know. Company finally spent money to get the machine we wanted, don't want to drop another purchase on them right away

[TonyW]

Hi there,

Can anybody give me a link for router G and M codes.
I need to lean a little bit more about router codes.
I am trying to find information what does G8 do. Or C0.
What P1 and P0 do for the routers.

thanks in advance

Vlado

Not sure if you are asking your question in the right forum. This is for BobCAD CAM software help.
You might want to look here: CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! - Powered by vBulletin

Thats the area for woodworking machines and routers and I think your question will get more help there

[SeanDa]

Here is a link for a list of G and M codes, I can definitely say, Wikipedia pretty much has everything.

G-code - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia