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  1. #41
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    A few more electronics queations before I order. I have done some searching and some reading but still have questions about supplying power to the C32 and ESS. I like the idea of optoisolated inputs and outputs and am trying to get a head count on 5v supplies. It looks to me that (1) 5v 3a will cover the main power if the C32 and ESS. Then I would need (1) 5v for inputs (limit switches) and (1) 5v for outputs (drivers) for a total of (3) 5v supplies. Is this correct and or necessary? With my lack of skill level on electronics I would rather buy a few extra supplies rather re-buying everything when I short something out.

    Thanks

  2. #42
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    You need a single 5V supply for the BOB and all I/Os, and a second one just for the PC-side of the BOB, including the ESS. That one need not be very large as it will only power the optos, a small amount of logic on the BOB, and the ESS. I'd expect even 1A would be plenty.

    Regards,
    Ray L.

  3. #43
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    Thank you sir, but now my Paypal is crying worse than before.

  4. #44
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    Look around you probably have a wall wart laying around that will work. If all you can find is a higher volt one just build a little circuit board to regulate it down, it wouldnt cost more than a couple bucks to go to Radio Shack and egt the 5v regulator and a board to build it with. Lots of digrams around the net to build one from also.



    Jess
    GOD Bless, and prayers for all.

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    Hey Jess (Lucky13), could you please clear your PM box as it's full and I was trying to contact you re DMM AC Servos.
    Sorry for posting this here guys but I couldn't think of another option.
    Regards
    Skippy

  6. #46
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    I deleted my bogus wiring diagram (end of page 1) as to not lead others down the wrong path I was taking...

    Most all of the electronics and other hard parts are now in hand. So I started getting more serious about chipping away at the 3D model in Inventor however I still have a long ways to go. Right now I have all of the conversion parts drawn off the Hoss plans but am planning to change it up just to make it my own.




  7. #47
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    You need to add clutter to your table top, boxes in the corners and under the desk and swarf every where to make it look more realistic!

    Seriously, nice job!

    cheers,
    Michael
    Reelsmith, Angling Historian, and Author of "The Reelsmith's Primer"
    www.EclecticAngler.com | www.ReelLinesPress.com

  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by mhackney View Post
    You need to add clutter to your table top, boxes in the corners and under the desk and swarf every where to make it look more realistic!

    Seriously, nice job!

    cheers,
    Michael
    I agree 100%
    will you be sharing the model?

  9. #49
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    Haha, thanks guys. Not sure about sharing the model. I intentionally simplified the parts by removing some features like tapers/fillets/chamfers that I felt were not important in the overall scheme of things. Also, the +/- tolerances of the machine as a whole are all over the place. I can guarantee that your machine has different bolt patterns and such than mine does. I'm guessing that is why there are so many parts with the machine number stamped on them.

    Anyway here is an overview shot of my WIP "machining center" The bench is 2x4 construction on 16" CL with a 3/4" particleboard top that's covered by 12ga steel that wraps 3 sides, legs are 4x4's. I'm pretty tall so the bench is too.


    7x Lathe with it's most used tooling


    The only parts going back in the G0704


    Current state of the G0704

  10. #50
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    Nice work and you won't go wrong with Hoss's plans as he'll stand over all his products and guide you if help is needed.......

    Love the workshop and keep the pics flowing.....thanks for sharing
    Eoin

  11. #51
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    Been chipping away at the control. Hope to have it all wrapped up by the time the weather cools down enough to revisit the garage and start working more on the mechanical. I did a temporary test run and got all axis working, the spindle is under mach control using the stock ESC and a game pad working as a pendant. My plan here is to get all control components mounted and wired to this board then mount it in a steel enclosure where I can then layout all of the I/O connections. Anyways, small update with a little progress.


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    Getting happier with the Y axis drive setup in the computer.



    I like the idea of a front bearing.





    26T XL pulley's



    Thinking of boring a 1.5" hole in to back of the column to sink the bearings into to minimize the foot print.



    Probably stupid but I was thinking the slot could capture the stepper mount nut.



    I know that I'm not breaking any new ground here but would love some feedback on this setup.

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    I would think that you wouldn't want nuts on the front of the Y-Axis ballscrew, since this end it just supposed to float. The AC bearings at the back take the load, and the front bearing just supports the screw radially. You need to allow for screw length changes with temperature, so you don't want the same support on both ends.

    Other than that, it is looking really good.
    Michael Anton
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_b View Post
    .......Thinking of boring a 1.5" hole in to back of the column to sink the bearings into to minimize the foot print........I know that I'm not breaking any new ground here but would love some feedback on this setup.
    There's no issue with the 1.5" hole as I myself drilled the exact same diameter but in mm's of 40mm http://www.cnczone.com/forums/1068714-post70.html, but you may have to redesign your A/C bearing allocation.....have a look at the pic to see the reinforcing around the Column Bolt holes in the Column casting....now I know mine is the BF20 version but I asume that the Grizzly is similar but you should clearly be able to view the casting as you have your cloumn and base disassembled
    Eoin

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    Sorry meant to add in my last post too but I pressed the Submit too soon......geez I love the 3D drawings and rendering....well done, nice work
    Eoin

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    Quote Originally Posted by manton View Post
    I would think that you wouldn't want nuts on the front of the Y-Axis ballscrew, since this end it just supposed to float. The AC bearings at the back take the load, and the front bearing just supports the screw radially. You need to allow for screw length changes with temperature, so you don't want the same support on both ends.
    I had originally planned to configure the Y that way but forgot when the time came to model it.:tired: Thanks for the reminder. Isn't it standard to nut each end of the X screw though?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad Welder View Post
    There's no issue with the 1.5" hole as I myself drilled the exact same diameter but in mm's of 40mm... have a look at the pic to see the reinforcing around the Column Bolt holes in the Column casting...
    According to my measurements I'll only hit the reinforcement on one side and even then just barely. I have the OD of the bearing boss @ 1.400" to allow for a little alignment adjustment.

    Updated model...



    If nothing else it looks better. Eoin, I really like how you made your front bearing spacer out of round stock then milled the top flat so I'm stealing the idea...





    Here you can see better (in red) where the 1.500" hole will hit the wall.



    Oh, forgot to mention the spring pins to keep the stepper plate and bearing mount aligned.

  17. #57
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    Been hacking away at the base conversion parts during break times and lunch for a while now. Didn't take many pictures along the way but was able to do some initial testing (minus spindle) this weekend. Not bad for my first rodeo G-Code skills are in need of some work.

    Feeds 25,50,100,200,250... YouTube

    Converted a 6" rotary too... YouTube

  18. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_b View Post
    I had originally planned to configure the Y that way but forgot when the time came to model it.:tired: Thanks for the reminder. Isn't it standard to nut each end of the X screw though?
    I think the only reason that the X usually has nuts on both ends, is to hold the handles on, at least on a manual machine. The end without preload, usually has the nut just tight enough to hold the handle on, it still allows the screw to expand an contract. Of course on a CNC machine, this would be different, especially considering that on a manual machine, the screw likely doesn't change temperature much, as the feeds are different, and the machine is not pushed as hard, for as long.
    Michael Anton
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    Get a Mini-Mill. Perfect for RC after-market parts.
    www.WebMachinist.Net
    The Ultimate Online Source for Machinist Related Stuff!

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    Re: rob_b's G0704

    Makes since on the dials.

    A mini-mill would be really sweet but I think it will hurt much less if I learn and crash on this mill for starters.

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