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  1. #1
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    V21 surface creation

    OK. All I am attempting to do is engrave some simple phenolic labels. I just installed V21 on my computer which is windows 7. Whenever I go to the solids menu and select extrude surface, the extrude surface menu will not come up. Has anyone else had this problem? I am sure there is something silly that I am missing. However, I have gone thru the training manual step by step for this function and it does not work.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by banjopup View Post
    OK. All I am attempting to do is engrave some simple phenolic labels. I just installed V21 on my computer which is windows 7. Whenever I go to the solids menu and select extrude surface, the extrude surface menu will not come up. Has anyone else had this problem? I am sure there is something silly that I am missing. However, I have gone thru the training manual step by step for this function and it does not work.

    Thanks!
    Did you create the surface first ? ? Need to do that before you can extrude it.

    First select your geometry so it is highlighted, then go to Solids > Surface Creation > Planar Surface and select "Next" button and that will create the surface.

    Now go to Solids > Surface Creation > Extrude surface and select the "Next" button and your "Extrude surface" dialog box will appear where you can enter the info for your extrusion.
    If you set it with "Caps" it will look like a solid when you use the "Render".

    Hope that is of some help to you.

    Regards
    Rob

    :rainfro::rainfro::rainfro:

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    I have not even so much as looked at this program (or any other for that matter) since 2005. Apparently I have completely lost my mind. It still does not work. If you have the time and dont mind, could you walk me thru this? I need to run a 2"x8" plastic label with 4 simple lines of text. (times 500 of course).

    Thanks for the response!

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    Quote Originally Posted by banjopup View Post
    I have not even so much as looked at this program (or any other for that matter) since 2005. Apparently I have completely lost my mind. It still does not work. If you have the time and dont mind, could you walk me thru this? I need to run a 2"x8" plastic label with 4 simple lines of text. (times 500 of course).

    Thanks for the response!
    I don`t have the V21 software on this PC, it is on my PC at home and on my Laptop which is out at another location today so it will be a couple of hours or so before I am home so don`t think I am ignoring you

    :rainfro::rainfro::rainfro:

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    TEXT TEST FILE

    It should have worked, works OK here.

    As I`m not 100% on exactly what you are trying to do I`ve done a small test program for you, it is Zipped so just download and unzip the file and then open the .cad file with your V21 software. I`ve no idea what size of text you need so I just did one line fairly big so it can be easily seen.

    Click image for larger version. 

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    If you just want to create some text and machine it into some plastic then you don`t need to be working with surfaces/solids at all, have a look at the attached file and let us know if that`s what you are looking to achieve.

    Regards
    Rob

    :rainfro::rainfro::rainfro:

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    Sorry it took me so long to acknowledge this!

    Thanks to you I am on the right track. Still trying to figure out how to get the tool ramp and not destroy the workpiece between letters and between labels. I can now draw the labels I want, but I cant seem to get the code generated correctly to actually cut them - jeez I feel like a total beginner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by banjopup View Post
    Sorry it took me so long to acknowledge this!

    Thanks to you I am on the right track. Still trying to figure out how to get the tool ramp and not destroy the workpiece between letters and between labels. I can now draw the labels I want, but I cant seem to get the code generated correctly to actually cut them - jeez I feel like a total beginner!
    To start with you will need the correct Post Processor for your machine control, what is the control ? ? Is it Mach3 or a proper commercial built control system ? ?

    Once I know that I can download the correct Post and then show you how to get the code right for your control.

    Meantime here is the code for the line of text in my last file as generated by a Mach3 Post Processor, if you are running Mach3 then this code should run in the machine:-

    N1G40
    N2G80
    N3G90
    N4G54
    N5 G00 Z0.5
    N6 X2.1173 Y1.3325
    N7 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N8 Y1.6825F2
    N9 G00 Z0.5
    N10 X2.0123
    N11 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N12 X2.2223F2
    N13 G00 Z0.5
    N14 X2.2923
    N15 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N16 Y1.3325F2
    N17 X2.4673
    N18 G00 Z0.5
    N19 X2.2923 Y1.5425
    N20 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N21 X2.4323F2
    N22 G00 Z0.5
    N23 X2.4673 Y1.6825
    N24 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N25 X2.2923F2
    N26 G00 Z0.5
    N27 X2.5373
    N28 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N29 X2.7823 Y1.3325F2
    N30 G00 Z0.5
    N31 X2.9573
    N32 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N33 Y1.6825F2
    N34 G00 Z0.5
    N35 X2.8523
    N36 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N37 X3.0623F2
    N38 G00 Z0.5
    N39 X3.2723 Y1.6125
    N40 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N41 Y1.4095F2
    N42 G00 Z0.5
    N43 Y1.413
    N44 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N45 Y1.4025F2
    N46 X3.2898 Y1.35
    N47 X3.3423 Y1.3325
    N48 X3.4123
    N49 X3.4648 Y1.35
    N50 X3.4823 Y1.4025
    N51 Y1.6125
    N52 X3.4648 Y1.665
    N53 X3.4123 Y1.6825
    N54 X3.3423
    N55 X3.2898 Y1.665
    N56 X3.2723 Y1.6125
    N57 G00 Z0.5
    N58 X3.5523 Y1.3325
    N59 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N60 Y1.6825F2
    N61 X3.7623 Y1.3325
    N62 Y1.6825
    N63 G00 Z0.5
    N64 X3.9723
    N65 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N66 Y1.3325F2
    N67 X4.1473
    N68 G00 Z0.5
    N69 X4.2173
    N70 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N71 Y1.6825F2
    N72 G00 Z0.5
    N73 X4.3223
    N74 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N75 Y1.3325F2
    N76 G00 Z0.5
    N77 X4.5323
    N78 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N79 X4.3223 Y1.6825F2
    N80 G00 Z0.5
    N81 X4.5323
    N82 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N83 Y1.3325F2
    N84 G00 Z0.5
    N85 X4.6023
    N86 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N87 X4.7773F2
    N88 G00 Z0.5
    N89 X4.6023
    N90 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N91 Y1.6825F2
    N92 X4.7773
    N93 G00 Z0.5
    N94 X4.6023 Y1.5425
    N95 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N96 X4.7423F2
    N97 G00 Z0.5
    N98 X4.9873 Y1.6125
    N99 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N100 Y1.4095F2
    N101 G00 Z0.5
    N102 Y1.413
    N103 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N104 Y1.4025F2
    N105 X5.0048 Y1.35
    N106 X5.0573 Y1.3325
    N107 X5.1273
    N108 X5.1798 Y1.35
    N109 X5.1973 Y1.4025
    N110 Y1.6125
    N111 X5.1798 Y1.665
    N112 X5.1273 Y1.6825
    N113 X5.0573
    N114 X5.0048 Y1.665
    N115 X4.9873 Y1.6125
    N116 G00 Z0.5
    N117 X5.2673 Y1.3325
    N118 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N119 Y1.6825F2
    N120 X5.4773 Y1.3325
    N121 Y1.6825
    N122 G00 Z0.5
    N123 X5.5473
    N124 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N125 Y1.3325F2
    N126 X5.7223
    N127 G00 Z0.5
    N128 X5.5473 Y1.5425
    N129 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N130 X5.6873F2
    N131 G00 Z0.5
    N132 X5.7223 Y1.6825
    N133 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N134 X5.5473F2
    N135 G00 Z0.5
    N136 X2.7823
    N137 G01 Z-0.01F0.05
    N138 X2.5373 Y1.3325F2
    N139 G00 Z0.5
    N140M30
    %

    The plunge feeds (F0.05) and cutting feeds (F2) you can easily change by opening the file in Notepad and selecting "Replace" and changing them to whatever is comfortable for your machine

    Regards
    Rob

    :rainfro::rainfro::rainfro:

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    here's a quick easy one for you - what is that font called? every font i try to use has a double line to it. i need a single line text

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    Quote Originally Posted by banjopup View Post
    here's a quick easy one for you - what is that font called? every font i try to use has a double line to it. i need a single line text
    The Font is "BobCAD21.5.3" see attached image

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    Regards
    Rob

    :rainfro::rainfro::rainfro:

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