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  1. #1
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    Super mini mill pricing

    Hi guys,

    Would anyone know what new a super mini mill is going for these days? Roughly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottC View Post
    Hi guys,

    Would anyone know what new a super mini mill is going for these days? Roughly?
    You can price one out at Haascnc.com built it the way you want with their custom quote feature. I have spent more than my share of time building machines that way.

    Lowell

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    Thanks Lowell,

    Yeah, I remember being able to ballpark price up a machine on the website, but now every machine has a "contact dealer" link for the price. Possibly because im outside of the US. Bascially im looking to purchase a minimill and have been quoted by the local dealer and am interested to see what the machine sells for in the US.

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    Scott, Sorry I did not notice you were Down Under. Here is what I just pulled off the web site.

    Lowell

    Mini VMC 16" x 12" x 10", 10K Spindle
    ◦Configure
    ■Tooling Taper (BT/CT)
    ■CT-Style Tool Changer Grippers
    ■Drive System
    ■Direct Speed, Belt Drive
    ■Spindle
    ■10,000-rpm Spindle, 15 hp (11.2 kW)
    ■Tool Changer
    ■10-Pocket Tool Changer
    ◦Customize
    ■Options
    ■Coolant Pump Kit
    ■Control Options
    ■Rigid Tapping
    $41,995.00 USD

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    Hey Lowell,

    Cheers for that, my quote for a supermini mill with highspeed machining and a few other options is significantly higher. I'm keen to find out where the difference is being eaten up..

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    Scott, send me your list of options and I will build on for you and send it back
    Lowell

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    ok,

    I got pricing on both the super mini mill and the super mini mill 2...
    Could you quote a super mini mill 2
    Options:
    High speed machining
    Extra memory
    Ethernet
    high flow coolant pump

    I also got seperate pricing for the 15k spindle and side mount tool changer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottC View Post
    ......my quote for a supermini mill with highspeed machining and a few other options is significantly higher. I'm keen to find out where the difference is being eaten up..
    Shipping? Customs duty?
    An open mind is a virtue...so long as all the common sense has not leaked out.

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    Hi Geof,

    Yeah, I've considered shipping, and Haas crating. We dont pay import duty for equipment made in the US, but we have customs clearances etc. Delivery and forking may also be included in the quote.

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    Scott,

    SMM2
    Product Description Total Price

    SMINIMILL2 Mini VMC 20" x 16" x 14", 10K Spindle 45,995.00 USD
    Tooling Taper (BT/CT) CT-Style Tool Changer Grippers 0.00 USD

    Spindle 15,000-rpm Spindle, 15 hp (11.2 kW) 8,295.00 USD

    Options High-Flow Coolant Pump Kit 415.00 USD

    Control Options High-Speed Machining 2,395.00 USD

    Control Options 750 MB Expanded Memory 1,595.00 USD

    Control Options Ethernet Interface 1,495.00 USD

    MSRP: 45,995.00 USD
    Your Choices: 14,195.00 USD
    Total Price: 60,190.00 USD
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    Sminimill

    Quotation


    Product Description Total Price

    SMINIMILL Mini VMC 16" x 12" x 10", 10K Spindle 41,995.00 USD
    Tooling Taper (BT/CT) CT-Style Tool Changer Grippers 0.00 USD

    Spindle 15,000-rpm Spindle, 15 hp (11.2 kW) 8,295.00 USD

    Options High-Flow Coolant Pump Kit 415.00 USD

    Control Options High-Speed Machining 2,395.00 USD

    Control Options 750 MB Expanded Memory 1,595.00 USD

    Control Options Ethernet Interface 1,495.00 USD

    MSRP: 41,995.00 USD
    Your Choices: 14,195.00 USD
    Total Price: 56,190.00 USD


    Hope this helps, I am going to head for bed, it is almost midnight here. What kind of work do you do?

    Lowell
    [email protected]

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    Thanks for that Lowell.

    Ive replied off post...

    regards,

    Scott

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    side mount

    whats the difference between the 20 tool umbrella, and the side mount?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew2 View Post
    whats the difference between the 20 tool umbrella, and the side mount?
    The side mount is a lot faster because it swaps the tools. It can stage the next tool it needs and then flip. The umbrella has to put the old tool back and then go searching for the next tool. Also the tools in the side mount are out of the work envelope.

    John

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    extra tools cost

    The price difference between the 20 umbrella and side M?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew2 View Post
    The price difference between the 20 umbrella and side M?
    If you are still referring to the Super MiniMill or Super MiniMill 2 I don't think this is a relevant question. The SMM comes only with the 10 tool carousel changer and the SMM 2 only with the side mount changer.

    On the VF machines the side mount changer option adds $9,295.

    Incidentally if you go to the US website for Haas the prices are still available, or at least they were a minute or two back like on this page:

    MINI VMC | Haas VMC PRICING | Haas Automation, Inc. | CNC

    Your price will be higher but you can get relative prices between options.

    I also noticed Haas now changes for 'export crating' so that is one reason for your higher price.
    An open mind is a virtue...so long as all the common sense has not leaked out.

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    I was going to say the difference in the dollar conversion might be a reason also..until I looked it up (chair)
    41,000.00 USD = 38,182.16 AUD
    I would think shipping would be a chunk also.
    Gary

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    Yep, Im looking at a $20k + difference between the US pricing and the Haas dealer here in Sydney. The difference is due to converting the machine to "australian" specs, the pricing the dealer gets from haas is higher than US machines, the cost of crating, shipping and customs fees. We have an annual machine show coming up where the Haas dealer is offering a 5% discount though.

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    Good Luck Scott, The machine will pay for it's self even at these higher prices.

    Lowell

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