[majid]

please help me about WHY my CRT monitor panel in cnc milling deckel is off!!
just when I turned on Machine!

thanks
MAJID

[holbieone]

just a thought , do you have the screen saver on ?

[majid]

just a thought , do you have the screen saver on ?

HI:no I have not any screen saver,Are you know this type of CNC Machine(DECKEL PF4 DIALOG4)?
thanks

[majid]

HI:no I have not any screen saver,Are you know this type of CNC Machine(DECKEL PF4 DIALOG4)?
thanks

[deckeldoctor]

Under the bottom of the operators console there is a brightness knob try turning it and see if the screen appears.

Does the rest of the machine turn on even though there is no screen?

The machine should turn on with out the screen!!!!


If machine does not turn on ,have you checked all the circuit breaker and fuses?

Regards
DD

[majid]

I tried to turn brightness Knob But nothing was appears on the screen.
Also I could not make Control ON!! +24V is disconnected under button

I checked all circuit breaker and fuses they are OK

But I checked Electrical Circuit according drawings : RELAY 1 on the NSV90 PLC(A3) power Board dose not actuated !!

I could see some Leds on the (A3) PLC unit as below:

LED SITUATION ON PLC BOARDS (A3) IN THE ELECTRICAL CABINET :

NSV90 LEDS : D10= 5V>> ON D17=SF>> OFF D16:NOT AUS=off

NPP90 LEDS:: F5,6,7,8 red led>> ON D10,11 >> ON "E" Green led=off "S" green led = ON

wait for your advise
thanks
Majid

[deckeldoctor]

Inside the operators console,in the bottom of the console is a battery it looks like 6 AA batteries together,7.2VDC.

Check the voltage in the battery,replace with rechargable battery if less than 7.2v and id it has never been replaced.

See what happens after you replace the battery if it is bad.

Take pictures of the leds on in the operators console and the boards you talk about NSV 90 also has battery it should be 3.6VDC.Replace if necessary or has never been replaced with re chargable battery. you can and wire to the connections for this battery and place battery on top of the enclosure.

One more battery in the oprators console on the NSP board also should be 3.6vdc rechargeable replace if it has never been replaced.

According to the "E" and "S" on the NPP 90 the problem is in the operators console, The "S means the NPP90 is sending

signal to the operators console and when everything in the operators console is "OK" the "E" turns on and the communications and power up check sum are good.

Regards
DD

[majid]

Dear DD
inside consol battery it looks like 6 AA batteries together, should be 7.2VDC when I Checked was 4.2Vdc! I will replaced and Told you.

NSV 90 also has battery it should be 3.6VDC But is less than 2.6V ,I must be replaced that with resoldering!

One more battery in the oprators console on the NSP board ,Please Told me this Board is a RAM Board?

So I Will take Pictures From operator panel Leds and send you.

Thanks
Very much
Majid.GH

[deckeldoctor]

Yes the NSP is the ram board that holds your machining programs. You can add wire to this circuit board and place the new battery down in the bottom of the operators console.

This control does not have parameters,all machine program for machine function are on eproms.

Regards
Don

[deckeldoctor]

Hello MAJID ,

So does the machine work now?

Regards
DD

[majid]

HI
Dear DD

Did you received Leds Pictures I sent via Email Attached?

According your Advise So I changed NSV90 and NSP 3.6VDC rechargeable Battery and also that 7.2VDC inside console Battery Which had low voltages problem .
But Nothings became to change as before. screen still is dark and control dose not come to ON!!

that seems NPP54 Board and NCR Board have some Problem!! I do not Know!!

NPP54 have 3 Red Leds Tow nearly Serial Pc socket and one nearly Other Flat socket .only one Red Led is on .
location of rel led ON is : in top of Serial pc Socket.

Please send your Advises!!

Thanks ans wait for your Answers!

Majid.gh

[majid]

HI:
Dear DD

I attached some pictures from PLC Leds, Console Cards Leds Here
Please look up them and told your opinions and advise


Thanks.
Majid.gh

[majid]

HI:
Dear DD
Are you There?

Majid

[majid]

HI
Dear DD

Did you received Leds Pictures I sent via Email Attached?

According your Advise So I changed NSV90 and NSP 3.6VDC rechargeable Battery and also that 7.2VDC inside console Battery Which had low voltages problem .
But Nothings became to change as before. screen still is dark and control dose not come to ON!!

that seems NPP54 Board and NCR Board have some Problem!! I do not Know!!

NPP54 have 3 Red Leds Tow nearly Serial Pc socket and one nearly Other Flat socket .only one Red Led is on .
location of rel led ON is : in top of Serial pc Socket.

Please send your Advises!!

Thanks ans wait for your Answers!

Majid.gh

HI:
Did you Recieved My last replys?

Majid

[majid]

HI: Dear DD
Not Yet! still I have Problem

Majid.gh

[deckeldoctor]

Majid,

Remove all circuit boards in the operators console,one at a time.

Place circuit boards on non conductive flat surface,use both thumbs and press on all socketed IC's.

See if this makes any changes in leds.

Regards
DD

[majid]

Dear DD
I will Do that and Told you Result.
Thanks

[jaisara]

Dear Mr Senter,

It is nice to see you online again.
We are happy to learn that you are resolving and helping lot of
people on Deckel CNC around the world.
We are eagerly waiting for a solution for EPROM on DECKEL EDM.
We are very confident only you can help us.

Jaisara,
Rao

[jaisara]

On Deckel DE10-C ,We have still not got any solution for the EPROMS in CPU!
Request help!

[alirezakiani14]

dear sir majid
reset the control and power on again