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  1. #1
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    Tips/tricks/observations on me mini mill

    I am talking about $495 mini mill sold by numerous outfits
    here in US: HF, Grizzly etc.


    - Use the X-Y clamps: every now and then when
    taking an unavoidable heavy cut, the chatter will be
    pretty bad - the mill is simply not rigid enough. Lead screws flex
    quite a bit, even when you manage to lower the backlash. I found that
    by tightening the direction-of-the-cut clamping handle to where one can barely
    move it with handwheel helps a whole lot - cuts that seemed
    unattainable were possible.


    - speaking of the locking handles: they are pretty bad and strip
    easily. I ordered replacement from McMaster (6mm) and these are
    rock solid. Replace all three: XYZ


    - The sliding Z-stop thingy is weak - be careful not to overtighten
    it, as it will snap right down the middle. And when it does you will
    see that it is made
    of graphite-like material. I recommed milling your own -when and if you
    break the stock one.


    - Be careful as you slot: if you use centercutting end mill and heavy
    cuts, it will tend to pull the Z down and ruin that tenths precision
    you were aiming for. Lock the Z, pull up the sliding Z stop and lock
    that
    one too. Check often. Use non-center-cutting end mills (4 flutes are
    mostly non CC but make sure by checking )


    - I did the drive belt mod on mine a while back (not the HA one, but
    the one that eliminates all and any gears between the motor and the
    spindle). I love it . Highly recommended.


    - Surface grinding on cheap: a while back while visiting a local store
    I mentioned small grinding stones mounted on cheap adapter, with 1/4"
    shank - for something like $2, in various D (2"-3") and thickness (1/4 and up). I picked up
    a few. Mount diamond dresser into the vise (use horizontal Vee grove),
    mount the stone, get it so that the diamond is on the
    stone's center line with some separation (check for that by manually
    rotating the spindle). I personally use X feed to drive the stone into
    the diamond. Start up, feed the stone to where it barely touches, use Z
    to move the stone up/down, crank up the RPMs. Feed another thou and
    repeat. Stop and check for nicely trued up stone. If you are not
    wearing a respirator mask and safety goggles when doing it, you should
    not be allowed anywhere near the machinery.


    Abrasive dust will be all over the mill as you do it. I found that
    wrapping most of the surroundings into the common kitches alum foil
    helps to keep the debri out. Shop vac is a must - afterwards for sure,
    better yet right during the process.


    - Examples of surface grinding : I trued up my chuck's jaws, made my
    own T-slot cutter out of $2 end mill (see below).


    - T-slot cutting. I built a t-slotted cross slide for my mini lathe
    (out of CRS, CI is just too darn expensive !!!) When preparing for
    T-slotting I milled the required depth/width of the slot for the
    T-cutter's neck. As I started mounting 5/16 t-cutter, I could not help
    but notice just how much metal will need to removed by the said cutter
    in a single pass. 1/4" high cut, with .100 or so on ea side.


    Naturally it simply doesn't work - unless you're ready to feed in at
    1 thou/month rate. The noise will wake up dead in nearby cemeteries.
    The chatter will get a 1000 lb bench to tap dance all over one's shop.
    Aborted - after trying every possible RMP/feed rate in both
    feed directions.


    I decided to make my own T-slot cutter out of 4-flute mill ( I bought a
    20-piece set for $30 a long while back, TIN coated HSS variety). I got
    one with the D almost equal to the required width of slot (may be 20
    thou
    under). MOunted it into my vise's vertical v-grove. Installed the
    el-cheapo grinder stone. Arranged the hight to make 1/8 high cutting
    head,
    lock the Z. We make it thin to reduce the amt of material it removes in
    a single pass.


    Feed the mounted end mill into the stone for required depth, nice and
    slow, back out,
    loosen the vise, turn the end mill 30 degrees or so , repeat. in 5 mins
    you should have the cutter that works . The neck doesn't have to be
    perfectly concentric or round, for that matter. Of course, make sure
    it is narrow enough to enter the slot. Rest the butt of the end mill
    on a parallel, to keep it on the same height.


    Another way to make the same thing in a much prettier way is to use
    tool post grinder on a lathe. Dremmel-like tool can be epoxied/bolted
    onto 3/8-1/2 sq shank (Varmint Al's idea), to be mounted in a toolpost
    of your choosing. Use 3/4-1" OD slim grinder stone for best control.


    To use the cutter: cut the slot in 3-4 passes. First one will be full
    height worth of metal removal, so tighthen the feed's handle - see
    above. Go slow, subsequent passes you
    can make easier by removing smaller amt of metal. Finish the slot with
    the real T-slot cutter - it will clear it all up to right height, width
    and make the shoulder square.


    - Make your own DRO for the mill - shumatech.com way. For $150 or so
    you will get a complete DRO that will rival commercial ones selling for
    20x the amount. Can save some money by using HF's calipers for
    scales.


    - Swarf containment is rather important for an HSM. I bought a roll of
    transparent film @ local hobby shop, in .010 thickness. Cut a strip
    of the right height for the particular, messier cut you're taking.
    Wrap it around the head assembly, as close to 360 as possible, so that
    the edge of the film touches
    the work's surface. I use pieces of alum sticky tape to temporarily
    hold the thing in place. It removes easily and doesn't leave any
    residue.


    As you cut, the film will contain the chips to the work's area, so stop
    the cut every now and then and clean up. Still better than having to
    shop vac the whole shop. I dispose of the film agfterwards - as it is
    covered in chips and cutting oil and is not transparent anymore.


    - On the same subject: the shoes you wear in the shop should not be
    allowed back in the house. As simple as that. Use old ones or buy
    a pair of el cheapo ones. I wear ... drum roll .. sandals. The boots
    are no go as the chip will fall in with no way to get out. With sandals
    it is easy to keep the chips out even though they are open type. I
    stick the shop vac nozzle into the front opening after most heavy cuts
    to vacuum whatever got it. What you don't want to happen is for a
    splinter to go in and then break off.


    Before you start a cut, make sure the toes are not sticking in the
    open. Use longer apron, stick the belly out


    - On somewhat related: make your own aprons out of synthetic cloth
    they sell @ HD to protect furniture when painting (egg-shell smooth
    on one side with textured bluish opposite side). Cut to length/width,
    round off the top part, cut a half-a-circle hole on top for the head.
    Cut 2 holes waist-high on the sides and put some kind of straps in.
    Should not take you more than 1 min to make one.


    Wear it with textured, cotton-like side _in for comfortable feel, with
    smooth side out. Works real nice, chips just slide down the smooth
    exterior, never ever stick on. Cut few aprons in dift length.
    Wear short ones on a hot day when working with wood. Longer ones are
    better for metal - especially when they reach all the way to your toes.


    Discard when they get dirty. A roll of that cloth will last you a
    century or so.


    I never put any pockets on it - this is where the chips will end up
    just waiting for you to stick your fingers in.


    - On cooling: Like quite a few of fellow HSMs I work out of my attached
    garage. Used to get quite uncomfortable in the summer (NJ) when I could
    not even work in there. I could not mount regular AC in there (it is a
    townhouse). Last summer (late enough for a sale) I got me a portable
    upright AC @ HD. This one exhausts the heat through 4" flex pipe. Stick
    the pipe outside and you're in business.


    - for face milling - get import face cutting carbide insert mill from
    Grizzly or similar. They cut ANYTHING, are accurate and cheap enough
    these days. Make sure the column is indicated in for a nice flat cut.
    Watch the patterns formed on the surface as you cut - it is
    very easy to tell when the column is not true. When you manage to dull
    the insert, rotate it to expose the next tip and continue. Inserts are
    very cheap.

  2. #2
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    Great post of helpful hints and tricks. Thanks.
    Regards,
    Mark

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