update. i just went back out and tried messing a bit more and changed some of the spindle control numbers in the motor tuning config, spindle axis, and it got better, so i kept adjusting until my hand held meter read pretty close to all the different S numbers i kept throwing at it, so i feel a bit better. i went into motor tuning, spindle axis, and changed steps to 1000, and velocity to 700, and it seems to work. that doesnt jive with anything i have read, so i think the pulley settings and min and max speeds need to be set. i would still like to know what settings anyone may have under ports and pins, spindle. and also under motor tuning, spindle axis. thanks