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    Re: Thinking about designing a 5 axis machine, what about an AB head?

    A is X axis rotation B is Y axis rotation. That would require a double jointed head.

    Mean while A C or B C means you can rotate around the Z-axis and then tilt in any other axis.

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    Re: Thinking about designing a 5 axis machine, what about an AB head?

    Quote Originally Posted by nlancaster View Post
    A is X axis rotation B is Y axis rotation. That would require a double jointed head.

    Mean while A C or B C means you can rotate around the Z-axis and then tilt in any other axis.

    Something like this perhaps?
    Routers aren’t mounted, but 2 heads are better than none.


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    Re: Thinking about designing a 5 axis machine, what about an AB head?

    Peter, I was thinking that this inflection point could be handled without having to do a full retraction. You could coordinate motion between the A, Z, and X axes to sort of freeze the endmill in place and successfully rotate the A axis 180°. If you were surfacing something where the angles were less than 90° than this is less of a problem area. I have seen 5 axis heads for waterjets that function as I describe, though they max out at less than 10°.

    Routalot, this head from Zimmermann includes a B axis in addition to A and C:
    https://www.f-zimmermann.com/en/milling-heads/m3abc/
    They seem to have lined up the centers of rotation well, though I agree that it would be a challenge to control something like this.

    Muzzer, my intent was to design a milling head that would give the additional 2 degrees of freedom rather than something mounted on a table.

    Rob, I can't quite tell from that photo, but are you mounting two routers side by side with each on its own Z axis? I've seen that on production machines but that's not my goal here.

    Thank you all for the excellent input.

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    Re: Thinking about designing a 5 axis machine, what about an AB head?

    Quote Originally Posted by MalachiLandis View Post
    Peter, I was thinking that this inflection point could be handled without having to do a full retraction. You could coordinate motion between the A, Z, and X axes to sort of freeze the endmill in place and successfully rotate the A axis 180°. If you were surfacing something where the angles were less than 90° than this is less of a problem area. I have seen 5 axis heads for waterjets that function as I describe, though they max out at less than 10°.

    Routalot, this head from Zimmermann includes a B axis in addition to A and C:
    https://www.f-zimmermann.com/en/milling-heads/m3abc/
    They seem to have lined up the centers of rotation well, though I agree that it would be a challenge to control something like this.

    Muzzer, my intent was to design a milling head that would give the additional 2 degrees of freedom rather than something mounted on a table.

    Rob, I can't quite tell from that photo, but are you mounting two routers side by side with each on its own Z axis? I've seen that on production machines but that's not my goal here.

    Thank you all for the excellent input.
    You’re welcome.
    Yes, I misunderstood your direction
    My bad!


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