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  1. #1
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    REAR BEARING BROKEN hp4000

    DEAR FRIEND

    We have 17 machining centers HP 4000 in the factory

    We had several breaks in the rear bearing

    In the 3 years 6 spindle bearings R11247 broken



    The breaks bearing cause the breakdown of BZ SENSOR



    It is possible to just replace the rear bearing without disassembling the cartridge?

    There are some preventive maintenance to be done?

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    Re: REAR BEARING BROKEN hp4000

    While that bearing fit within the desired specs at the design of the machine, we have since switched to a different bearing for that use.

    Please use R11413 as the replacement part.

    Full dis-assembly and "clean-room" conditions are recommended for the repair.

    Decontamination of burnt Kluber Grease and degraded bearing material throughout the ENTIRE housing is REQUIRED.
    Doosan Service Technician
    [email protected] O:973-618-2461 M:973-803-9479

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    Re: REAR BEARING BROKEN hp4000

    Quote Originally Posted by dhardt View Post
    While that bearing fit within the desired specs at the design of the machine, we have since switched to a different bearing for that use.

    Please use R11413 as the replacement part.

    Full dis-assembly and "clean-room" conditions are recommended for the repair.

    Decontamination of burnt Kluber Grease and degraded bearing material throughout the ENTIRE housing is REQUIRED.


    Thanks for quick return

    we use the NSK bearing N1011BTKRCC1P4

    This is the correct?

    One more question.

    In previous repairs we removed the Motor CAP.
    The manual in annex says:

    '' You must not disassenble the motor CAP because it will afect the concentricity of the position of the main spindle bearing.''

    How shall we proceed ?
    There Any value of concentricity?



    Thank you in Advance.

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    Re: REAR BEARING BROKEN hp4000

    Quote Originally Posted by marcelo_maint View Post
    Thanks for quick return

    we use the NSK bearing N1011BTKRCC1P4

    This is the correct?

    One more question.

    In previous repairs we removed the Motor CAP.
    The manual in annex says:

    '' You must not disassenble the motor CAP because it will afect the concentricity of the position of the main spindle bearing.''

    How shall we proceed ?
    There Any value of concentricity?



    Thank you in Advance.
    The NTN Bearing number for the Doosan part R11413 is: N1011HSRT6KC0NAUP

    From what I've been able to determine your NSK Part# N1011BTKRCC1P4 is STANDARD CLEARANCE FOR CYLINDRICAL BORE
    Our bearing is for a TAPERED BORE
    So they are NOT compatible.


    Concentricity is attained and set with the spindle being assembled in a VERTICAL position, so gravity has less effect on the readings. If the CAP is assembled in the HORIZONTAL position, concentricity is interfered with.
    Doosan Service Technician
    [email protected] O:973-618-2461 M:973-803-9479

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    Re: REAR BEARING BROKEN hp4000

    Quote Originally Posted by dhardt View Post
    The NTN Bearing number for the Doosan part R11413 is: N1011HSRT6KC0NAUP

    From what I've been able to determine your NSK Part# N1011BTKRCC1P4 is STANDARD CLEARANCE FOR CYLINDRICAL BORE
    Our bearing is for a TAPERED BORE
    So they are NOT compatible.


    Concentricity is attained and set with the spindle being assembled in a VERTICAL position, so gravity has less effect on the readings. If the CAP is assembled in the HORIZONTAL position, concentricity is interfered with.

    Thank you friend for sharing your knowledge


    This information helped us a lot.


    I will figure out why they sent this bearing as a spare part..

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    Re: REAR BEARING BROKEN hp4000

    Dear Dhardt

    Could you suggest me a vibration analyzer to start a predictive maintenance of spindle bearings?

    Thank you in Advance

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