Now that I stand corrected on my programming methods..... and Sean at Bobcad was very helpful with that.... V27 update #1547 looks good. NO complaints at all and today will be a most excellent test. Programming and running a fairly complex 1018 steel hot tooling mold today. The new features in V27 will be an awesome asset to speed programming. We do specialty tooling work here....very little production work. With that being said I write approx. 1500 different (one off) programs per year and run each job myself. Programming fast is essential to me. Bobcad is what I know and Bobcad is what I use. V27 with update here we go.........(thanks mmoe for encouraging me to contact Bob) (replied within 2 hours).