Hi all - I had some time so upped the size of the gantry and the saddle and the Z plate. Got it to just under 11um which is close to 100N/um a good starting point. I think I should have modelled the...
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Hi all - I had some time so upped the size of the gantry and the saddle and the Z plate. Got it to just under 11um which is close to 100N/um a good starting point. I think I should have modelled the...
Hi Craig - The next step would be to shell the parts until they came to reasonable weight with minimum stiffness penalty. It's a trade study and Round 1 so weight is not currently the main concern....
Good Morning PIO & Others - I've had a restless night going over my EG stuff. This morning Thomas published his bending test data on his EG and it came out at 22GPa. He has done very careful work on...
Hi Thomas - Good news. The numbers are in. Good to see they are the same order as mine. I've had a restless night thinking through the epoxy granite stuff actually. Come to the conclusion its...
Hi SP - I did correct the calculation so the attached prior is correct.. Cheers Peter
Hi Pio - For a trade study use simplified geometry, as simple as possible. The aim is to establish a direction. Your current model is nicely detailed nearly ready for manufacturing specifications......
Hi Vily - Yes the 400x200x16 is considerably stiffer globally then the 300x200 arrangement, plus the 16mm is stiffer locally and it has some meat in it for a machining allowance.... Since the big...
Hi SP - I'd suggest a 25mm belt but its miles stronger then required. I'd choose it for its stiffness. See attached calc. The 25mm wide AT10 belt has a rated load with 15t engaged at 1930N (well over...
Hi All- Great news! I have found a seller of flanged 50:1 harmonic drives. Saves making motor mounts and surface mounts. 20arcsec backlash very good. <$100USD per unit so cheaper than making the...
Hello Pio - I am not against concrete or any material. I pick the material for the job. If I were designing a large machine with integrated electricals and cooling, engineering grout CSA would be my...
Hi Vily - The external geometry is the same so why do this? Your only gain is in the two straps on the sides? Peter
Mr G-Spot - I won't get into various discussions with you in this thread or other threads. Unfortunately, what you say cannot be removed, it is unfounded. I have been designing & building machines...
Hi Pio:
1) thermal issues for a machine in a flat is unlikely to be a problem when aiming at a Hobby level machine. The principles of thermal symmetry if they can be applied is worthwhile especially...
Hi Craig - Garden fountains are a useful distraction. Peter
Ok - sounds like a good plan. Peter
So Vily - Do you intend stress relieving the weldments? This is best practice (and least risk for being able to machine the lands flat) and how are you going to machine the lands for the rails? The...
Hi Vily - I find using std SHS and RHS to be a limiting approach. But if your going to use it, select the biggest heaviest sections possible or combinations to create the biggest geometry possible....
Hi Vily - If any tool is not trammed then one side is higher than the other and will cut a scallop into the surface. The bigger the tool the bigger the error vs the same off axis amount. All tools...
Hi Vily - By tramped I think you mean Trammed? If it is not trammed correctly the bigger the tool the bigger the error. Also the commercial machine builders that fabricate machines do not fill their...
Hi Vily - very good. Why using a fly cutter? They are used to reduce the load on the machine and do not have a very big material removal rate. Speak to your tooling supplier about tools suitable for...
Hi Vily - If you intend doing a lot of face work on plate then consider using a bolster or a sub table on the machine. This will minimise the Z height. If you design a machine with a "big" Z then you...
Hi Vily - thicker steel is better than adding concrete. Keep making things as big and thick as possible. The z axis is what will let you down so make it very stiff. So on that point here's my...
Hi Pio - A couple of things. What sort of machine are you aiming at? Maker/Hobby level? Commercial? Toolmaker grade? and what do you want to do with it? Your design is clearly above say a Taig but...
Hi Andrew - I don't think so but best to send Tom the question. I have not used the product yet, will use it on the next two machines in build. I have been reading the manuals and threads plus Tom...
Hi Pio - What modulus are you using for the concrete? If your model is correct (so check all the connections and geometry) then the spindle nose static stiffness is 300N/37um ie 8N/um. This is not...
Hi Andrew - Look at dynomotion will do as you need, has excellent motion control and Tom provides excellent support. https://dynomotion.com/index.htm Kflop is 8 axes out of the box and...
Hi Vili - I've recently been thru the Z axis using generative, shape optimisation and form finding in Fusion,. The tube idea was the winner. I expect it to be a bigger stiffness gain then 33 to 26 so...
Hi Vily - So 1000N/33um is 30N/um. So if your model is correct look at what bits are deflecting the most. Then address those. Try to bump up the static stiffness. Seems your z axis is the softest...
Hi Vily - Unfortunately, with steel things get heavy. So you are either limited to weight that you can handle or you need to achieve a certain stiffness. See how you go with the FE and stiffness....
Hi Vily - That small free corner will vibrate so cap it. OK FE is a big subject. I apply 1000N at the spindle nose. Use bonded connections everywhere to begin with. Place the gantry at max depth...