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  1. Thread: Patriot PDF's

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    Re: Patriot PDF's

    It's was a Nowforever E100 on the 2012 Patriots and yeah lots of stuff wasn't configured or just set wrong. They don't connect the spindle control wires at all as outlined in the manual. But mine was...
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    Re: Issues with Shopmaster owners

    There in an old saying "Love your country, don't trust your government". I think this applies to Shopmaster pretty well. Love the design and company, hate the assembly and manufacturer.

    The...
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    Chance: The Patriot only requires single phase...

    Chance: The Patriot only requires single phase 220 to run. They have a built in VFD that changes the voltages and phases for the motors and servos.

    As far as my feelings on the Patriot I have to...
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    If you bought the unit direct from Shopmaster...

    If you bought the unit direct from Shopmaster they should have given you a CD with it that has the complete Nowforever manual in it. It's really long and very detailed as to all the different ways it...
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    Lot's of options.

    Most any vise will work. Just have to allow for the fact that the Patriot table grooves run in a different direction than a normal mill.

    This is the ST-91 from Shopmaster: Pretty much useless,...
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    Very cool.

    Yep, that was the new information put up there. All good and accurate now. I assume since the 2400rpm at the quill requires 120hz to achieve they will probably bump the 75hz cap up on the VFD as...
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    Just why?

    Again just a miscommunication. When I read the ad copy for a like a Lagun FTV-1 it says 55-4250rpm or a Bridgeport Series 1 60-4200rpm.

    Reading the information on the Patriot it just says 1400rpm...
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    I understand.

    I understand where you are coming from and I guess I could be clearer in how I phrased it.

    In my defense if you follow the manual and read the marketing materials you think you have 1400rpm max...
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    Clarity.

    The new motors from the last shipment to arrive around the first of the year are 1.1kw at 50hz and 1400rpm. That's 1.5hp.

    It's stamped into a plate on the motors themselves. I originally...
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    learning curve.

    Yeah, I am definitely learning a lot. Don't like experimenting with expensive things that much but seems like it will be fine.

    I just went outside and tried to crank it up to 120 like he said as a...
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    Shopmaster response.

    Got a response from Shopmaster. Here is the cut and paste of my question and his response. Not sure how to interpret this. The old motors where rated 75hz before the very last shipment that arrived...
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    Lathe ratio

    Timbob you are way in front of me at all this stuff. I am still trying to iron out some basic machine physical layout issues that weren't right front the factory. So barely able to even use the...
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    Could be worse.

    Be happy yours came all neat and bundled and shrink wrapped just as the manual states. This is how I found mine. Wedged between the fan and the lip of the enclosure.

    The manual does state how to...
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    Separate CD.

    The config file, the manuals and your license for Mach3 are all sent separately on a CD to you in the mail. They are not on the computer when it arrives, that's just a generic Mach3 install. Mine...
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    More just a warning.

    Yeah JT had told me when I first brought up the inconsistency between the manual and the actual numbers stamped on the motors that I wouldn't fry any motor control circuitry as the VFD controller was...
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    Motor RPM incorrect 2012 VFD

    Just thought I would throw out a heads up for something I found. Still trying confirm it at all rpms but it looks consistent so far. I discovered this while looking at some full sized mills and their...
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    Get what you pay for..kinda.

    The design is top notch among 3 in 1's. Really there is no comparison. The rigidity and capability compared to the Smithy's and Harbor Freight, etc are a step above.

    That said the execution is...
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    Compromises must be made.

    Turns out that yeah for 20 bucks you can get a 3" extension MT3 to MT3. I ordered it. He, like a lot of you said you don't need to support a piece that short with a dead center, the book assumes you...
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    Journey not destination.

    I totally get what you are saying but txcncman hit the nail on the head. I have been fabricating race cars and building engines (using a trusted machinist) for thirty years so I can pretty much make...
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    temporary work around.

    I figured I would post a few pictures of what I finally got to work. It is rickety and was not a nice cut as I was using the toolpost adjustment as my depth control. But it worked, the end is...
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    Great advice.

    Smallblock, that sounds like good advice and basic stuff that I should do even if it isn't in the book. Thank you.

    Also you know that extension was mentioned on the list of 'standard' items but I...
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    Photos

    Ok, here are some photos. You can see I removed the little spacer bar from the tailstock so I could get it closer but the bellows is compressed as far as it can go. It can be removed but it's not...
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    Will go get a picture to post.

    It's that generic MT3 dead center that comes with the Patriot. about 4" long or so. Looks like to reach and actually provide stability it would have to be at least double that or more. I will try to...
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    can't get dead center close enough to use.

    This is undoubtedly a dumb question but as a beginner to machine work I have to admit I am kind of stumped.

    I have a new 2012 Patriot VFD and am starting the projects in the Lathe Coursework book...
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    My experience.

    Always email JT, he is very prompt with his replies that way. I ordered my machine in late May 2012 with the three month understanding. I actually had a conversation with him rather than jump to...
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    Just nervous.

    Oh, I know it's a good value for what you receive, I wouldn't debate that. It's just that for me since I paid 5 months ago and have had to do all the follow up contacting and it's 1 1/2 months past...
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    Should I worry?

    I got my invoice "Paid in Full" stamped in early june 2012. Was told they would arrive there mid August and to me by early to mid September. Exchanged an email early on to clarify some parts on the...
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