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  1. #1
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    SCSI Harddisk 45MB

    Dear Sirs

    We have got a machine with GE Fanuc series 150M, this machine has SCSI Harddisk 45MB. Machine is working fine with this harddisk but sometimes stops booting

    Hence we decided to take image of this SCSI Harddisk 45MB for future use

    To take image of this harddisk, we have connected this with Desktop with Windows Xp

    We have used a SCSI controller , connected this at PCI slot, then connected this SCSI Harddisk 45MB with this controller

    LED on SCSI controller is getting ON, but during boot up, BIOS is unable to recognise this SCSI Harddisk 45MB hence we keep getting cursor on the screen

    Sometimes, Green LED on SCSI SCSI Harddisk 45MB getting ON, sometimes remins ON, sometimes flickers, sometimes off, sometimes we even hear tick sound but not getting recognised

    Kindly let us know if any of u have any experience of taking image that means cloning of SCSI Harddisk 45MB

    Best Regards,

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    Re: SCSI Harddisk 45MB

    Further to my reply here.....
    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/fanuc/...Series%20150M=

    if the SCSI HDD is working the copy method I explained will work.

    alternatively take the HDD to someone who knows what to do and has experience cloning SCSI HDDs and get them to copy it and/or image it.

    if you still want to try it yourself, you need to provide more info.....

    Exact make/model of SCSI HDD
    Your SCSI controller make and model. Ideally it should be an Adaptec.
    How you connected it (with what kind of cable and to what connector on the SCSI controller)

    You should be able to go into the SCSI BIOS setup and it should have a SCSI BUS scan item in the menu.
    If you scan the SCSI bus it should find and identify all SCSI devices on the SCSI bus (including HDD and controller)

    You may need to set the SCSI ID, and/or termination so it does not clash with other SCSI devices (including the SCSI controller which also has an ID). To make SCSI work it's a bit more complicated.
    The SCSI termination is important. it looks like you either have it enabled when it should be disabled or vise versa. that is probably the cause of what the are seeing (providing your SCSI HDD is working of course)

    I advise you to google for a tutorial on connecting a SCSI HDD to a PC and follow that to have basic knowledge before you begin.
    For example this.....
    Install scsi Hard Drive - A guide to installing a SCSI hard drive

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    Re: SCSI Harddisk 45MB

    Dear Sir

    Thanks for ur reply

    We could get a SCSI controller, connected it on the PCI slot of a Desktop PC, then connected this SCSI Harddisk to that controller

    This desktop PC is already having SATA harddisk & Xp as OS

    During boot up, we get

    Press <CTRL><A> for SCSI (TM) Utility
    SCSI ID : 1 FUJITSU M2611S
    Then it stops at Verifying DMI Pool Data and does not proceed further

    When we press CTRL and A,

    We get 2 options a) Configure/View Host adapter settings b) SCSI Disk utilities

    When we select Configure/View Host adapter settings and press Enter

    We get SCSI Bus Interface Definitions

    Host Adpater SCSI ID 7
    SCSI Parity Checking Enabled
    Host adapter SCSI termination Automatic

    Additional options

    Boot device oprtions Press Enter
    SCSI Device Config Press Enter
    Advanced config options Press Enter

    BIOS Info Interrupt IRQ channel 11
    I/O Port Address DE00h

    When we select option SCSI Disk utilities

    we get Scanning SCSI ID ....... then finally we get a list which shows

    SCSI ID#1 FUJITSU M2611S - which is actually spec of SCSI Harddisk
    SCSI ID#7 AHA-2940 Ultra/UltaW

    When we select SCSI ID#1 and press enter

    we get 2 options : Format Disk and Verify Disk Media

    When we click on Verify Disk Media, we get a message that This drive will be scanned for Media Defects, all recoverable defects will be remapped Yes/No

    I lef it at this position that means did not opt for Yes

    a) Kindly advice if i can select option Yes, will it help or it is not safe

    b) Kindly advice why booting stops at "Verifying DMI Pool Data and does not proceed further"

    Please be informed that this harddisk is working fine in the machine but sometimes machine stops booting then we take out this harddisk, clean up harddisk as well as Fan in the yellow Fanuc casing then gets alright

    Warm Regards,

    M. Rishikesh

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    Re: SCSI Harddisk 45MB

    Quote Originally Posted by M.RISHIKESH View Post
    Dear Sir

    Thanks for ur reply

    We could get a SCSI controller, connected it on the PCI slot of a Desktop PC, then connected this SCSI Harddisk to that controller

    This desktop PC is already having SATA harddisk & Xp as OS

    During boot up, we get

    Press <CTRL><A> for SCSI (TM) Utility
    SCSI ID : 1 FUJITSU M2611S
    Then it stops at Verifying DMI Pool Data and does not proceed further

    When we press CTRL and A,

    We get 2 options a) Configure/View Host adapter settings b) SCSI Disk utilities

    When we select Configure/View Host adapter settings and press Enter

    We get SCSI Bus Interface Definitions

    Host Adpater SCSI ID 7
    SCSI Parity Checking Enabled
    Host adapter SCSI termination Automatic

    Additional options

    Boot device oprtions Press Enter
    SCSI Device Config Press Enter
    Advanced config options Press Enter

    BIOS Info Interrupt IRQ channel 11
    I/O Port Address DE00h

    When we select option SCSI Disk utilities

    we get Scanning SCSI ID ....... then finally we get a list which shows

    SCSI ID#1 FUJITSU M2611S - which is actually spec of SCSI Harddisk
    SCSI ID#7 AHA-2940 Ultra/UltaW

    When we select SCSI ID#1 and press enter

    we get 2 options : Format Disk and Verify Disk Media

    When we click on Verify Disk Media, we get a message that This drive will be scanned for Media Defects, all recoverable defects will be remapped Yes/No

    I lef it at this position that means did not opt for Yes

    a) Kindly advice if i can select option Yes, will it help or it is not safe

    b) Kindly advice why booting stops at "Verifying DMI Pool Data and does not proceed further"

    Please be informed that this harddisk is working fine in the machine but sometimes machine stops booting then we take out this harddisk, clean up harddisk as well as Fan in the yellow Fanuc casing then gets alright

    Warm Regards,

    M. Rishikesh
    Sir

    By using Acronis True Image 10, we could clone harddisk onto a CD

    wondering if there is nay way to send that image of 5MB to forum just to get confirmation if image is valide one

    Thanks for ur support

    Kindly confirm about following

    When we click on Verify Disk Media, we get a message that This drive will be scanned for Media Defects, all recoverable defects will be remapped Yes/No

    Can we opt for Yes to scan media defects ?

    Warm Regards,

    M. Rishikesh

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    Re: SCSI Harddisk 45MB

    do not scan the media for defects. you do not need to mess with the HDD.
    from what you have said the HDD is ok and your SCSI set-up is also ok.
    boot the PC, load some software and image the HDD to a file.
    power off, replace HDD with an identical one, re-boot PC, re-load same
    software and write backed-up HDD file image to new HDD.

    the DMI error is a different problem. You can try to reset the DMI Pool Data in the BIOS
    by defaulting the settings. Or better Google for the error and you will find the answer.
    something like this.....
    Computer stops at verifying DMI pool data....

    also, ensure in the SCSI controller settings that the boot device is not SCSI ID#1
    If it is, just set the boot device to something else, not ID 1
    You should be booting from your regular Windows HDD.

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    Re: SCSI Harddisk 45MB

    Quote Originally Posted by fordav11 View Post
    do not scan the media for defects. you do not need to mess with the HDD.
    from what you have said the HDD is ok and your SCSI set-up is also ok.
    boot the PC, load some software and image the HDD to a file.
    power off, replace HDD with an identical one, re-boot PC, re-load same
    software and write backed-up HDD file image to new HDD.

    the DMI error is a different problem. You can try to reset the DMI Pool Data in the BIOS
    by defaulting the settings. Or better Google for the error and you will find the answer.
    something like this.....
    Computer stops at verifying DMI pool data....

    also, ensure in the SCSI controller settings that the boot device is not SCSI ID#1
    If it is, just set the boot device to something else, not ID 1
    You should be booting from your regular Windows HDD.
    Sir

    Good Morning

    Now when we connected the harddisk to the machine, Batch Read Error 80204012 appears and before that Graphic CPU Ready, Boot Rom Check OK, DRAM OK, HHD Drvie Ok appearing then loading from Hard drive, Loading Flex OS then stops with Batch Read Error 80204012 appears and stops

    Kindly advice

    Reagrds,

    M. Rishikesh

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    Re: SCSI Harddisk 45MB

    Sir

    As informed to you yesterday, loaded Acronis True Image 10 in a Desktop PC having windows Xp and SATA harddisk, connect this scsi harddisk also to the same PC

    This scsi harddisk got recognised as Drive F, via Acronis, taken image of this scsi harddisk, it was sucessful as at the end we got message "Operation Succeeded" and image is having extension.tib and capacity around 4.5Mb as SCSI harddisk is of 45MB and data is around 10Mb

    Kindly confirm if this image could be a valid image or not, unfortunately as u know i can not post that image to this forum as there is no provision to attach any file

    We do not have a similar harddisk anyhwere in India

    Best Regards,

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