Are you glad to have bought a Chinese made CNC Router?
Hi Guys, This thread probably applies mostly to those of us outside the USA, who do not have access to the CNC Routers manufactured by the many suppliers there, or even a selection of good used machines.
On our side of the world we have 3 choices.
1) Pay a minimum of $74,000 for an Aussie Built machine. (Commercial Size. No idea how much the small machines cost )
2) Build our own machine. Very time consuming - IF you have the knowledge and expertise to do so.
3) Buy and Import a machine from China at a very low price. The preferred option for many of us.
Writing as a person who has personally Imported 4 of these machines, i can honestly write that it has worked out very well for myself and our family business. We are very glad that we bought them!
On another thread this week, a particular supplier has come under attack due to customer service issues such as not answering Emails or failing to follow through with delivering items as promised. I was one of the complainers - but it is possible that it was one person trying to have a crack at me. That`s OK, i am a big boy.
There were also complaints of poorly tapped holes and cross threaded bolts, in other words - quality control issues, and also some owners who had messed with their DSP Controllers and created their own problems with it. I know - you feel it should be able to be reprogrammed by the owner. No argument from me on that point.
These problems have probably had a negative influence on intending machine buyers. Hopefully the Chinese manufacturers will address these issues and convince us that they do indeed care about their customers.
So my Question to owners of Chinese machines is this - Are you glad to have bought your machine from China? If not - why not? Do you feel that you had a better option?
The purpose of this thread is not to bash the Chinese machines, just your opinion after receiving and using your machine. Both the good and bad points.
Chinese manufacturers - Please absorb this information and make improvements where necessary.
Rocket.
Well Stone the Flamin crows!!
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Originally Posted by
bananafish
Hi, All
Rocket, This is very interesting thread. and I hope you get a lots of posts.
Personally I would like to know who bought which machine from whom. etc...
Just briefly describe myself. I'm in Sydney Australia.
My cultural background is Japanese.( You can tell by my bad English )
I run small cabinetmaking/woodworking business in Northern beaches area.
I placed the order for Excitech SHM1212 late August this year. my sales rep is Jerry.
I had good communication(most in Email) with Jerry till I made full payment.
After that, communication gets very slow.(less reply from Jerry)
I had the machine delivered on 19 Nov.
Believe or not, they sent me a wrong machine!! There was SHG1212 in the crate.
They have same size table but Excitech stated SHG is sign making machine and SHM is woodworking machine.There are some difference in the spec.
After a lots of emails to Jerry,(I received only few reply) he promised me to replace the machine. Now I have to wait again.
That's all I can tell you right now.
Obviously I've been having very very distressful time. Though I can't tell you whether It was good or not for me to buying machine from China.
I'll let you guys know how things went once every thing sorted out.
bananafish, What precisely is the difference between the SHG and SHM?
How about posting some photos?
Sorry to hear it has not gone smoothly, but is there REALLY a difference that is going to make things difficult for you?
LOL with getting Jerry to replace the machine, but i hope it works out ok for you.
Rocket.
Labour costs are the killer here
Hi Larken, There are some manufacturers in australia who build some excellent machines. Problem is Labour costs. Skilled people would be wanting to earn upwards of $30 per hour plus benefits. Then there is Workcover and a multitude of other costs for small business.
The end result is the price of a 1200 x 2400 CNC Router manufactured locally is about $68,000. I should also point out that that price includes an Auto Tool Changer and Vacuum Pump.
I am not aware of a locally made machine that is built without a Auto Tool Changer.
The 1200 x 2400 Chinese built machine with 3KW Manual Tool Changer Spindle and T Slot Table is a bit under $6,000. Add about $3,500 for Shipping and taxes. Therefore the Total landed price is under $10,000.
No Aussie Manufacturer can compete with that.
Our first CNC Router is a 1500 x 3000 machine with HSD Spindle, Vacuum Table and Vacuum Pump. Total landed price for that was $20,000.
There is an Aussie Woodworking supply business that is now importing smaller machines from the USA, but i have not seen their prices yet.
If a local business was to set up here and become a reseller for the Chinese machines - a lot of the price advantage is gone. There are in fact a couple on Ebay, but if you can buy direct from China and save a good $5,000 - then that is how most people would make their purchase.
Rocket.