585,778 active members*
4,326 visitors online*
Register for free
Login
Results 1 to 18 of 18
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    16

    ARROW 500 CT CONTROL

    I just bought a 500 machine at auction and am just about ready to hook power to it any thing I should know before turning it on I don't know if it ran or not the building had no power so i might have a piece of junk don't know yet

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Posts
    24
    You will need an air supply, too, to turn it fully on. Without air, you can bring up the operators station but not the machine power.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    386
    I can power up and align my Arrow 500 with CT control without air.
    I can jog the axes or move them with the MPG.
    Can't run commands in MDI or auto without air, though.

    Joe

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    16
    I hooked power to it but I don't have 110v to the control power supply module any body know where that comes from ? any ideas what the problem might be?
    Thanks

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Posts
    38

    Arrow 500 power problems

    For starters what is your 3 phase supply voltage to the machine? 208-230-380-415-460. After knowing this you need to tap the transformer correctly based upon the incoming voltage. Be aware that the spindax drive if you have it requires the 380/460v so you have to go through the transformer.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    16
    my incoming voltage would be 230 do you have a dia. for the transformer i could not find one on the transformer its self i only have 220 at the spindax so i woul\d suspect that would be my problem

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    386
    230 is confusing, I went through this myself.
    I have to look at my transformer to describe it as the diagram I have does not exactly match.
    I believe the 230v input taps are on the secondary side... where the ABC 230v comes out for the servo amps and the stepdown transformer that breaks out 120v (for the control) and 24v (or 12v, I forget) for other components (which explains why the control doesn't work yet).

    Let me take a look (I'll take a picture of my transfromer for you).

    Joe

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    386

    is a picture really worth 1000 words?

    Okay, here's the deal.
    230v input goes on the bottom taps. In the photo the leads from the main switch are labeled as A, B, and C and go into the a1, b1, and c1 taps at the bottom of the transformer (on mine anyway).

    I was having problems with the Spindax a while back. When I was troubleshooting I asked Rob Varney (at MAG) for ideas. I had mentioned that my 230v was closer to 240v. He told me to move the Spindax to the 380v taps and the Maxax drives to the 208 taps (which read 400v and 213v out of my transformer). He says the drives will tolerate under voltage, and over voltage was not good in his experience. I've been running it like this ever since (after I got the driver repaired at Emerson CT, that is).

    Hope this helps.



    Joe

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    16
    ok i got the power figured out but machine will not boot up talked to mag i forget his name but he thinks it could be mem mod they will check it for $250.00 reload software if it can be done for $1000.00 or sell me a rebuilt one for $2400.00 i am thinking seriously about stripping control and servo drives off and retrofitting new control and drives

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    386
    MAG can install a new Fagor 8070 or MachineMate for $18k. Their retrofit uses your existing amps and motors, though.

    I got a quote to replace my CT with a Numatix control, around $26k installed or $19k if I install it myself. The Numatics (or Numeryx) control is pretty amazing, block processing time along the lines of 10 times faster than the closest competitor. Brainchild of the late Gil Hagiz (guy was a friggin' genius in motion control).

    I have looked into EMC2 as well. It would take a hell of a lot of work to integrate one of those controllers but it is doable.

    I have the software to reload the system if you are interested. Does the control come up at all? What error do you get?

    Joe

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    16
    no the monitor does not come on at all power light is on but nothing shows up on monitor

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    107

    FNC CONTROL TECHNIQUES - ARROW 500 - post processor

    Hello

    I have just purchased this machine, I have experience with MACH3, but none with FNC Control. I know they are gone.
    I want to make an easy tool-path, but I can't find a post processor for any cam-program
    Does any one have a post processor for FNC control for any cam-program?

    Best regards

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Posts
    5003
    You should can use any PP who delivers a standard G-Code. The only critical point is the toolchange routine. That is different in some machines.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    107

    DNC CT FNC-5 Control Cincinnati Arrow '94

    Does any one have experience using any DNC program with the FNC control,
    Cable setting and parameters?

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    107

    CINCINNATI ARROW CT FNC control Programming Manual

    I was wondering if someone has a newer version of the Programming Manual with information of How to use the spiral interpolation or know how to use it?

    I asked to Robert Varney, about the spiral interpolation

    Was CT control updated to use spiral interpolation?. The manual says that was going to be implement

    You should be able to do spiral interpolation with the 2.568 software. That is the latest and last build published.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    67

    Re: ARROW 500 CT CONTROL

    Hello
    there A cnc machine is a CT-FNC
    I need the software for backup machine and the procedure followed
    Thank you to help us
    Here is my email:[email protected]

  17. #17
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    5

    Re: ARROW 500 CT CONTROL

    Free download Manuals for Cincinnati milling machine with controller CT-FNC.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    107

    Re: ARROW 500 CT CONTROL

    Hello

    Does someone has the new email for Robert Varney?, now He must be working for FIVES
    or somebody else who knows about CT FNC control

Similar Threads

  1. Arrow 750 Control Problems...
    By ToolBreaker in forum Cincinnati CNC
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 08-14-2014, 07:53 AM
  2. Replies: 4
    Last Post: 12-20-2012, 06:11 AM
  3. arrow 500 aux air supply control
    By TickTock_ in forum Cincinnati CNC
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 01-30-2011, 06:14 PM
  4. Arrow 500/750 same control
    By Mr Bonavita in forum Cincinnati CNC
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-09-2009, 05:32 AM
  5. need help Arrow 500 FNC control
    By gronux in forum Cincinnati CNC
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02-08-2009, 04:56 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •